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Post by joy on Jan 16, 2018 11:51:06 GMT -6
So the Duggars are in Australia and There is some unknown girl with them. Laura or Lauren, I can’t remeber now. Apparently she and Josiah are signing autographs together as “Josiah and Laura”. So everyone is fairly sure they are courting. Josiah is the one who had a failed courtship a couple years ago I think. Why does a courtship fail? Do we know why Josiah’s did?
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Post by miawallace on Jan 16, 2018 11:56:09 GMT -6
So the Duggars are in Australia and There is some unknown girl with them. Laura or Lauren, I can’t remeber now. Apparently she and Josiah are signing autographs together as “Josiah and Laura”. So everyone is fairly sure they are courting. Josiah is the one who had a failed courtship a couple years ago I think. Why does a courtship fail? Do we know why Josiah’s did? Front hugging. Jk. I don't know.
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Post by whatsit on Jan 16, 2018 11:58:27 GMT -6
So the Duggars are in Australia and There is some unknown girl with them. Laura or Lauren, I can’t remeber now. Apparently she and Josiah are signing autographs together as “Josiah and Laura”. So everyone is fairly sure they are courting. Josiah is the one who had a failed courtship a couple years ago I think. Why does a courtship fail? Do we know why Josiah’s did? I don’t think they revealed why but there was a lot of speculation. Happened around the same time as news came out about Joshs molestation past.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jan 16, 2018 11:59:53 GMT -6
So the Duggars are in Australia and There is some unknown girl with them. Laura or Lauren, I can’t remeber now. Apparently she and Josiah are signing autographs together as “Josiah and Laura”. So everyone is fairly sure they are courting. Josiah is the one who had a failed courtship a couple years ago I think. Why does a courtship fail? Do we know why Josiah’s did? Well, they broke up when the Josh scandal broke AND she wears pants and ended up going to college. She was not your normal Duggar bride.
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Post by Dramaphile on Jan 16, 2018 12:06:32 GMT -6
Why does a courtship fail? Do we know why Josiah’s did? I don’t think they revealed why but there was a lot of speculation. Happened around the same time as news came out about Joshs molestation past. I would guess she realized she didn't want to be a Duggar and GTFO while she could.
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Post by claudia on Jan 16, 2018 12:17:43 GMT -6
Technically, courtships are meant to see if you're supposed to marry each other, so it ends if you realize he or she is not the right partner for you. In Josiah's case, there was speculation that the courtship ended because of the Josh scandals. Josh also had had a failed courtship, but that was before the show.
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Post by Leaf 🌱 on Jan 16, 2018 12:33:01 GMT -6
I wonder if the Duggars require people to sign an NDO... I really need Jana to escape so I can have a BTS tell-all. Hopefully she takes Anna with her.
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Post by joy on Jan 16, 2018 12:58:24 GMT -6
I guess what I was getting at was many of these pairings are pushed/approved by the parents, which the children take very seriously. So, it seems like something egregious must happen to end a courtship, you know? I feel like a kid can’t say “oh, I don’t think we’re compatible,” because if they’re the right religion, have the same overall life view then there’s probably very little incompatability. I guess I thought a courtship was just a formalty.
But perhaps I’m thinking about it wrong.
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Post by joy on Jan 16, 2018 13:00:19 GMT -6
I can see how Josh being a terrible human would scare a mate off of a family, though. That makes sense. That I would classify as egregious.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 13:05:05 GMT -6
Josiah's ex has leggings and thighs showing on her Instagram. I had to Nike myself right on out of there.
I bet she is glad that one fell through.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 13:08:24 GMT -6
I can see how Josh being a terrible human would scare a mate off of a family, though. That makes sense. That I would classify as egregious. Hell yes. If I found out one of my girls was getting into a family where they covered up sexual abuse by sending the kid off to reprograming camp I would be all over that. And anyone who has a TV show is bound to be crazy in a lot of ways.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 13:18:59 GMT -6
I guess what I was getting at was many of these pairings are pushed/approved by the parents, which the children take very seriously. So, it seems like something egregious must happen to end a courtship, you know? I feel like a kid can’t say “oh, I don’t think we’re compatible,” because if they’re the right religion, have the same overall life view then there’s probably very little incompatability. I guess I thought a courtship was just a formalty. But perhaps I’m thinking about it wrong. IIRC courtship is more focused on finding out if he/she is the right one without the casualness of dating? Like I didn't date just to date. I only dated two guys who I was seriously considering (not at once obviously). My mom met my husband before our second date but that was only because she was in town. Otherwise my parents had no say in the process. My H called my dad to ask for my hand in marriage and I was hella pissed because I'm no one's to give away. It felt like I was a car and he was transferring the title. But the Duggars courtship process is "strict" so who the heck knows. Like Jill's husband was Jim Bob's prayer partner and then he suggested a courtship IIRC. I don't know if Jill could have said nah, I'm not into the scrawny look. But I think the Duggar girls want to get out but Josiah was in college and he is the one that gets to initiate a courtship so he may have ended it if he felt she wasn't strict enough for his liking. Men have more freedom than the girls This post may make no sense.
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Post by charlotte on Jan 16, 2018 13:22:05 GMT -6
No joy I think you’re right. My impression is that they consider a failed courtship to be a bit taboo. Because courting is like “giving a piece of your heart away” or whatever they say. Probably why they rush through the engagement and to marriage so quickly after they are officially courting- because courting to the Duggars appears to be synonymous with “engagement pending”. I do think Josiah’s courtship ending was directly related to Josh’s scandal. There was also a lot of blowback at that time about how young the girl was.
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Post by joy on Jan 16, 2018 13:26:16 GMT -6
Hahaha - @kokopelli - you make perfect sense!
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Post by wildflower on Jan 17, 2018 15:31:59 GMT -6
I guess what I was getting at was many of these pairings are pushed/approved by the parents, which the children take very seriously. So, it seems like something egregious must happen to end a courtship, you know? I feel like a kid can’t say “oh, I don’t think we’re compatible,” because if they’re the right religion, have the same overall life view then there’s probably very little incompatability. I guess I thought a courtship was just a formalty. But perhaps I’m thinking about it wrong. Many pairings are. My father picked my future husband when I was 13. Thankfully I got the hell out of that arrangement.
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Post by charlotte on Jan 22, 2018 17:02:25 GMT -6
I just read that the Duggars have confirmed Josiah and Lauren’s courtship.
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Post by charlotte on Jan 22, 2018 17:02:53 GMT -6
Dup
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Post by charlotte on Jan 22, 2018 17:03:28 GMT -6
I hate myself every time I post in this thread. Why do I care about these people.
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Post by whatsit on Jan 22, 2018 17:28:12 GMT -6
I hate myself every time I post in this thread. Why do I care about these people. Because it’s like seeing a car wreck. You just can’t look away.
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Post by marygracerich on Jan 26, 2018 15:02:08 GMT -6
Jinger just posted this
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jan 26, 2018 16:01:06 GMT -6
And so it begins.
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Post by honda on Jan 26, 2018 17:30:05 GMT -6
So the guys can pick who to court, but Jim Bob picks for the girls, yes? I can see it being this way, just want to confirm.
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Post by honda on Jan 26, 2018 17:31:54 GMT -6
PS that chick has "help me" in her eyes.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jan 26, 2018 17:38:05 GMT -6
So the guys can pick who to court, but Jim Bob picks for the girls, yes? I can see it being this way, just want to confirm. I think Jim Bob can technically veto girls too, but it’s less likely. I do think he brokers courting for all his kids but if his boy said “I want to court her” he is less likely to say no.
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Post by wildflower on Jan 26, 2018 17:58:12 GMT -6
You know what I think? I think John David is writing the tell all book. He's nearing 30, single, and his twin is the eldest daughter. Eldest daughters in these families are the second mom. John David remembers life before the TV cameras and I don't doubt that his twin bond with Jana is stronger than his bond with his parents.
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Post by honda on Jan 26, 2018 18:10:19 GMT -6
You know what I think? I think John David is writing the tell all book. He's nearing 30, single, and his twin is the eldest daughter. Eldest daughters in these families are the second mom. John David remembers life before the TV cameras and I don't doubt that his twin bond with Jana is stronger than his bond with his parents. Hmmmm he lives on his own now, right?
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Post by Jesslfar on Jan 26, 2018 18:24:02 GMT -6
So the guys can pick who to court, but Jim Bob picks for the girls, yes? I can see it being this way, just want to confirm. Yes. He transfers ownership on their wedding day. The girls are not allowed to date, use the internet or take phone calls unsupervised and they either listen in themselves or have another sibling do so. Once they marry the husband gets to choose whether they are allowed to use the internet or wear pants because women are weak and men to make decisions for them.
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Post by honda on Jan 26, 2018 18:26:15 GMT -6
So the guys can pick who to court, but Jim Bob picks for the girls, yes? I can see it being this way, just want to confirm. Yes. He transfers ownership on their wedding day. The girls are not allowed to date, use the internet or take phone calls unsupervised and they either listen in themselves or have another sibling do so. Once they marry the husband gets to choose whether they are allowed to use the internet or wear pants because women are weak and men to make decisions for them. Of course ::eye roll for days::
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 18:40:14 GMT -6
You know what I think? I think John David is writing the tell all book. He's nearing 30, single, and his twin is the eldest daughter. Eldest daughters in these families are the second mom. John David remembers life before the TV cameras and I don't doubt that his twin bond with Jana is stronger than his bond with his parents. I'm so tired right now that this sorta blew my mind. I forgot about him. He always seemed like such a solid guy on camera unlike Josh. He is apprently very private so I doubt he would write a book but boy would I love to have an unchaperoned chat with him.
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Post by honda on Jan 26, 2018 20:10:26 GMT -6
If you go back and watch the first episodes they are so different. They had handmade dresses, they all matched, and just simple simple.
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