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Post by addymac on Oct 4, 2021 9:58:24 GMT -6
To be fair, the article was talking about a sustained decrease in transmission from an all time high. Not saying that everything is ham and jam and we should throw a ticker tape parade or anything. I found it interesting that pediatric numbers mirror adult declines nationally, despite not having vaccines yet. My guess is because as the adults rate decrease there’s less of a chance of infection the littles. I just want DS to get the goddamn vaccine so I can not feel so anxious about taking him places indoors.
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Post by athn64 on Oct 4, 2021 10:09:17 GMT -6
Yeah I mean, I'm guessing that the article is taking the national statistics so probably overall, things are starting to look better. But around here, I'm getting a little nervous. Everything I am seeing, the experts here are thinking we haven't even reached our peak yet. Ugh. Can Oct 26 get here yet? I mean...... I need need need my kids to be able to get vaccinated ASAP
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Post by orangebird2020 on Oct 4, 2021 10:09:28 GMT -6
Yikes that map!
I am feeling anxious about figuring out what to do about a booster after having J&J in April. I saw there would be updates about J&J boosters specifically soon, but should I talk to a doctor about getting Moderna or Pfizer instead?
Also my ILs are taking a trip out of the country soon and I am worried. This trip includes an unvaccinated person who is of age but they told me the person isn't getting it due to allergies.
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Post by willow on Oct 4, 2021 10:25:04 GMT -6
To be fair, the article was talking about a sustained decrease in transmission from an all time high. Not saying that everything is ham and jam and we should throw a ticker tape parade or anything. I found it interesting that pediatric numbers mirror adult declines nationally, despite not having vaccines yet. Yeah I completely agree. I am just so nervous as fall is here and winter is coming.
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Post by Minerva on Oct 4, 2021 10:45:29 GMT -6
To be fair, the article was talking about a sustained decrease in transmission from an all time high. Not saying that everything is ham and jam and we should throw a ticker tape parade or anything. I found it interesting that pediatric numbers mirror adult declines nationally, despite not having vaccines yet. Yeah and I'm not surprised that a map showing risk for unvaxxed folks is intense. It’s also just going to take some time to get back to moderate or low risk levels for unvaxxed people in places that had high peaks. Case rates were so high in some parts of the South (over 100 cases per 100000 people daily 😳). Even as the infection rate drops fast, there are still a lot of people in those areas who have COVID and can pass it on. You have to drop down below 10 cases per 100000 daily to get to a moderate transmission level. It’s interesting to look at the shape of the case curve most recent surge in different regions. We’ve had a slow burn of Delta here in NOVA, with cases plateauing at around 15 per 100000 daily for weeks. The risk levels here haven’t changed in a long time, though they appear to be starting to slowly drop. In contrast, states like FL went from almost no COVID in the early summer to 130+ cases per 100000 daily in September and are now back down to ~25 cases per 100000 people daily. A hot, fast burn with risk levels changing drastically by the week and a much higher mortality due to overrun hospitals. Anyhow, it definitely is super regional. And I’m glad it seems to be on the downswing in the hardest hit areas.
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Post by richard on Oct 4, 2021 10:55:47 GMT -6
That article is hopeful, though locally we are now at the worst single day numbers since last Dec, which worries me as it gets colder. Not that I don't share your concern about seasonality, but there is a disparity between per capita cases in TC metro/suburbs versus Greater MN. The curve does look to be bending in the metro/suburbs.
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Post by richard on Oct 4, 2021 10:57:35 GMT -6
#regional
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Post by willow on Oct 4, 2021 11:02:02 GMT -6
richard Those are reassuring graphics for us at least locally. I do know that I’ve been very happy about the stats coming from our school district too. Less than .5% of the district population has tested positive after a month of class.
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Post by richard on Oct 4, 2021 11:02:34 GMT -6
To be fair, the article was talking about a sustained decrease in transmission from an all time high. Not saying that everything is ham and jam and we should throw a ticker tape parade or anything. I found it interesting that pediatric numbers mirror adult declines nationally, despite not having vaccines yet. I'm going to start saying "ham and jam." It brings me joy.
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Post by richard on Oct 4, 2021 11:07:20 GMT -6
richard Those are reassuring graphics for us at least locally. I do know that I’ve been very happy about the stats coming from our school district too. Less than .5% of the district population has tested positive after a month of class. I'm still a bit nervous about hospital/health care resources and impacts in our area if statewide numbers keep going up. But I am feeling optimistic that my kids can avoid covid until vaccinations are available.
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Post by teraiin on Oct 4, 2021 11:26:00 GMT -6
This is specific to my area but my concern is that our local case numbers are not accurate. Testing is extremely hard to come by now with a lot of the local places booked way out, results coming super late. With kids still not vaccinated (and no other dramatic changes in masking or whatever) I have a hard time trusting our numbers as really being improving. Maybe they are, I hope they are.
ETA; of course I know case numbers are only part of the story, we have to look at hospitalizations (which lag behind cases) to see a bigger picture
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Post by byjove on Oct 4, 2021 12:43:26 GMT -6
This is interesting. By that logic, most of the big US carriers would be- AA, Southwest and their affiliates. UA already mandated.
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Post by athn64 on Oct 4, 2021 12:48:42 GMT -6
This is interesting. By that logic, most of the big US carriers would be- AA, Southwest and their affiliates. UA already mandated. I really like the different companies following with mandates. I wonder if this will lead the other carriers to follow suit.
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Post by addymac on Oct 4, 2021 12:56:44 GMT -6
My hospital and surrounding area hospitals all put the mandate in, which our director told us, to avoid nurses quitting and going to a neighboring hospital. It makes me giddy. I haven’t seen some CWers since the mandate went into effect so I can’t ask them if they got it 😈
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Post by cmb on Oct 4, 2021 13:00:01 GMT -6
This is specific to my area but my concern is that our local case numbers are not accurate. Testing is extremely hard to come by now with a lot of the local places booked way out, results coming super late. With kids still not vaccinated (and no other dramatic changes in masking or whatever) I have a hard time trusting our numbers as really being improving. Maybe they are, I hope they are. ETA; of course I know case numbers are only part of the story, we have to look at hospitalizations (which lag behind cases) to see a bigger picture Same. It’s impossible to get seen by a doctor, let alone a covid test at this point
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Post by bananasoup on Oct 4, 2021 13:31:48 GMT -6
This is interesting. By that logic, most of the big US carriers would be- AA, Southwest and their affiliates. UA already mandated. My husband is a pilot for American and they sent a memo out last week stating they’ll be requiring the vaccines. There was a big stink about it on the wives FB page about it- my husband says most captains are pretty conservative and eye-rolly about masks and the vaccines.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 4, 2021 13:46:31 GMT -6
Reps Katie Porter and Ro Khanna were briefed on kids vaccines A thread
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Oct 4, 2021 15:05:51 GMT -6
This is interesting. By that logic, most of the big US carriers would be- AA, Southwest and their affiliates. UA already mandated. Southwest just announced a mandate.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 4, 2021 15:17:13 GMT -6
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Post by byjove on Oct 4, 2021 15:40:48 GMT -6
This is interesting. By that logic, most of the big US carriers would be- AA, Southwest and their affiliates. UA already mandated. Southwest just announced a mandate. Let's do hotels and rental cars next!
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Post by willow on Oct 4, 2021 16:19:24 GMT -6
Are there at home flu and strep tests? If we can manufacture 15 min COVID tests, why can’t we do the others?
I mean I guess the logistics of strep may be too difficult since you have to like choke yourself. And I don’t even remember the last time I was tested for flu so I also admittedly don’t know what that even looks like.
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Post by willow on Oct 4, 2021 16:23:19 GMT -6
Reps Katie Porter and Ro Khanna were briefed on kids vaccines A thread I’m glad that the 5-11 timeline hasn’t changed but I’m a little discouraged that under 5 says spring 2022. I thought that was going to be approved by end of year or at least submitted by then.
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Post by lagom on Oct 4, 2021 16:24:43 GMT -6
Reps Katie Porter and Ro Khanna were briefed on kids vaccines A thread I need to hear more about Moderna timelines. Pfizer rollout in rural areas is horrible and has too many hurdles, leaving too many 12-18 year olds unvaccinated in the places with the highest case rates right now.
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Post by lagom on Oct 4, 2021 16:25:52 GMT -6
Reps Katie Porter and Ro Khanna were briefed on kids vaccines A thread I’m glad that the 5-11 timeline hasn’t changed but I’m a little discouraged that under 5 says spring 2022. I thought that was going to be approved by end of year or at least submitted by then. Same. I thought they were only a month-ish behind the 5-11 group.
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Post by richard on Oct 4, 2021 16:36:14 GMT -6
Reps Katie Porter and Ro Khanna were briefed on kids vaccines A thread I’m glad that the 5-11 timeline hasn’t changed but I’m a little discouraged that under 5 says spring 2022. I thought that was going to be approved by end of year or at least submitted by then. I feel like the FDA was also hedging and giving very conservative timelines for 5-11 aged kids while Pfizer was saying the same thing pretty consistently - until recently when the FDA started confirming Pfizer's timeline and now we're hewing pretty closely to that. I think the FDA has been building in a buffer for the review process that is longer than what they need as long as the trials themselves go well. Pfizer is the one who said a month after for under 5's and this is the FDA guy saying Spring 2022 - so it seems like the same pattern to me. Hopefully all goes well in the trial and it's a repeat of what's happening with 5-11.
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Post by piratecat on Oct 4, 2021 18:09:57 GMT -6
Reps Katie Porter and Ro Khanna were briefed on kids vaccines A thread I’m glad that the 5-11 timeline hasn’t changed but I’m a little discouraged that under 5 says spring 2022. I thought that was going to be approved by end of year or at least submitted by then. 😭
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Post by cnf on Oct 4, 2021 18:10:39 GMT -6
Yeah I mean, I'm guessing that the article is taking the national statistics so probably overall, things are starting to look better. But around here, I'm getting a little nervous. Everything I am seeing, the experts here are thinking we haven't even reached our peak yet. Ugh. Can Oct 26 get here yet? I mean...... No surprise that blue states have a lower transmission risk, even if it is slight. It's almost like science is working exactly as the experts said. Imagine that.
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Post by piratecat on Oct 4, 2021 18:11:39 GMT -6
Reps Katie Porter and Ro Khanna were briefed on kids vaccines A thread I’m glad that the 5-11 timeline hasn’t changed but I’m a little discouraged that under 5 says spring 2022. I thought that was going to be approved by end of year or at least submitted by then. The pediatrician kept saying he wasn’t sure if my 4YO would get vaccinated before he turns 5 in May and I refuse to believe that is even a possibility. 😞
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Post by cnf on Oct 4, 2021 18:17:25 GMT -6
I’m glad that the 5-11 timeline hasn’t changed but I’m a little discouraged that under 5 says spring 2022. I thought that was going to be approved by end of year or at least submitted by then. The pediatrician kept saying he wasn’t sure if my 4YO would get vaccinated before he turns 5 in May and I refuse to believe that is even a possibility. 😞 Nope. Nope. I'm very frustrated. I'm so excited to get my almost 6 year old vaxxed, but my other two will be so far out at 4 and 1 years old 😭
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Post by dc2london on Oct 4, 2021 18:46:28 GMT -6
I mean...... No surprise that blue states have a lower transmission risk, even if it is slight. It's almost like science is working exactly as the experts said. Imagine that. I suspect the blue counties look artificially infectious relative to red counties because they are doing diligent testing and reporting so they're cat hing most cases, while some red counties may be missing a higher percentage of actual infections for a number of reasons. I also do wonder how much massive essential workplaces like the Pentagon, Capitol, military bases etc contribute to my local case rate where people are largely vaccinated but breakthrough infections are caught at a higher rate than essential workplaces that don't always have rigorous testing protocols.
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