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Post by oreobitsy on Sept 17, 2021 9:04:49 GMT -6
Ok, the group is still fucking weird for not turning to get them out of the shot. Agree. The photographer could have changed the angles to block those people from the picture too. It’s tourist photography 101.
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Post by mathlete on Sept 17, 2021 9:06:01 GMT -6
My parents were in the Grand Tetons and Yellowstone August 29 - September 11. I know that's passed when she probably disappeared, but I'm off to scour the photos!
(I asked her if they were involved in anything fishy. She did appreciate that and is now wondering if she walked passed her shallow grave at some point. I told her, I'm sure she is in a remote location if he left her somewhere)
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Post by McBenny on Sept 17, 2021 9:06:17 GMT -6
Didn't Reddit already contact that family and investigate that photo yesterday? I thought I was on the toilet last night when I read that.
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Post by ouijabored on Sept 17, 2021 9:09:59 GMT -6
I've been following this story. I can't believe he thought he could get away with this. At first, I was under the impression that it was his van and I thought it was somewhat plausible (though still shitty) that he'd leave her behind in some town after splitting up on the road. Anything could have happened to her after that and he'd legitimately have no reason to know what or where she was. But, no, it's HER van. To me, that puts an entirely different spin on the situation. How on earth did he think he could get away with driving HER van across the country without her and then not explaining to anyone where she was?! At the very least, he'd be guilty of stealing her property.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Sept 17, 2021 9:17:18 GMT -6
I've been following this story. I can't believe he thought he could get away with this. At first, I was under the impression that it was his van and I thought it was somewhat plausible (though still shitty) that he'd leave her behind in some town after splitting up on the road. Anything could have happened to her after that and he'd legitimately have no reason to know what or where she was. But, no, it's HER van. How did he think he could get away with driving HER van across the country without her and not explaining to anyone where she was?! She's not comfortable driving it, especially not alone. He was going to have to be the one to drive it back. So maybe he took off expecting her to get a flight home and she decided she wasn't done playing nature girl and went out by herself somewhere. If he has her phones or whatever, maybe that wasn't realized until later. If I just broke up with someone, I'm not answering calls from my ex's mom. Fuck off bitch. I hate your child. Especially when I was in my early 20's. Hells no. So many people are trying to put this through a logical lens and not remembering we are dealing with people in their early 20's that might not make the most logical choices.
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Post by ouijabored on Sept 17, 2021 9:20:51 GMT -6
I've been following this story. I can't believe he thought he could get away with this. At first, I was under the impression that it was his van and I thought it was somewhat plausible (though still shitty) that he'd leave her behind in some town after splitting up on the road. Anything could have happened to her after that and he'd legitimately have no reason to know what or where she was. But, no, it's HER van. How did he think he could get away with driving HER van across the country without her and not explaining to anyone where she was?! She's not comfortable driving it, especially not alone. He was going to have to be the one to drive it back. So maybe he took off expecting her to get a flight home and she decided she wasn't done playing nature girl and went out by herself somewhere. If he has her phones or whatever, maybe that wasn't realized until later. If I just broke up with someone, I'm not answering calls from my ex's mom. Fuck off bitch. I hate your child. Especially when I was in my early 20's. Hells no. So many people are trying to put this through a logical lens and not remembering we are dealing with people in their early 20's that might not make the most logical choices. This could be plausible except that he refused to talk to her family when they called asking him where she was/what was going on. If he was truly innocent, wouldn't he just tell them this story? "Gabby and I broke up, I left her in xyz town, she wanted me to drive the van, and she'd fly back and make a plan for picking up the van, etc. etc." I feel like the average person would offer up this info if they didn't have any reason for suspecting that the other person is dead.
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Post by CestLaVie on Sept 17, 2021 9:22:09 GMT -6
GhoatMonket , I think that's totally plausible. I think where it falls apart for me is when he gets home and her parents haven't seen or heard from her either and he still doesn't call it in. 10 days is a very long time. Aug 12 - Altercation that Resulted in Police Call Aug 25 - last facetime with mom Sept 1 - Brian arrives at his parents house Sept 11 - Gabby's parents call police. that night the police show up to Brian's house and he already has lawyer in place and doesn't talk. I think the fact that he had the lawyer in place essentially before she was reported missing is really sus. It's not like the police showed up and were like hey your fiance is missing and he was like ok I am getting a lawyer. he had one.
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Post by CestLaVie on Sept 17, 2021 9:27:15 GMT -6
Last night DH was like have you heard of Gabby Petito? lol. I guess he is heavy up in van life youtube which is kind of funny. But he said the mental health/suicide incidence seems super super high in that community. Both of them had some mental health things going on as well. I just think if that's what actually happened there would have been more concern on Brian's part for her safety.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Sept 17, 2021 9:28:44 GMT -6
She's not comfortable driving it, especially not alone. He was going to have to be the one to drive it back. So maybe he took off expecting her to get a flight home and she decided she wasn't done playing nature girl and went out by herself somewhere. If he has her phones or whatever, maybe that wasn't realized until later. If I just broke up with someone, I'm not answering calls from my ex's mom. Fuck off bitch. I hate your child. Especially when I was in my early 20's. Hells no. So many people are trying to put this through a logical lens and not remembering we are dealing with people in their early 20's that might not make the most logical choices. This could be plausible except that he refused to talk to her family when they called asking him where she was/what was going on. If he was truly innocent, wouldn't he just tell them this story? "Gabby and I broke up, I left her in xyz town, she wanted me to drive the van, and she'd fly back and make a plan for picking up the van, etc. etc." I feel like the average person would offer up this info if they didn't have any reason for suspecting that the other person is dead. No, I'd fucking hang up on them. Or yell something about calling her bitch ass and get the story from her. She's not answering? Not my problem. Again- 20. You are assuming he knew that she was missing. Not everyone pays attention to the news. Maybe her parents had a history of exaggerating things and he blew it off as them being a way. We also don't know the relationship between him and her parents. Just because they were engaged doesn't mean they were on good terms. My parents hated the guy I was engaged to at 18. Had he disappeared- my parents wouldn't have been overly helpful with helping his family with anything, but would have made sure I was covered if there was any sign I might have been a suspect.
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Post by ouijabored on Sept 17, 2021 9:28:58 GMT -6
The boyfriend ending up back in FL with her van and not talking to police screams guilt. And I want to believe it was an accident. He’s young and maybe he panicked. However, the fact that he continued to post photos of himself alone after she went missing is sus.This part is just I feel like only a true sociopath would do something like that after intentionally or even accidentally killing someone.
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Post by truffleshuffle on Sept 17, 2021 9:30:28 GMT -6
did her parents know he arrived at his parent's house on the first? if so why wait 11 days to report her missing? or were they not aware until later?
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Post by ouijabored on Sept 17, 2021 9:31:47 GMT -6
This could be plausible except that he refused to talk to her family when they called asking him where she was/what was going on. If he was truly innocent, wouldn't he just tell them this story? "Gabby and I broke up, I left her in xyz town, she wanted me to drive the van, and she'd fly back and make a plan for picking up the van, etc. etc." I feel like the average person would offer up this info if they didn't have any reason for suspecting that the other person is dead. No, I'd fucking hang up on them. Or yell something about calling her bitch ass and get the story from her. She's not answering? Not my problem. Again- 20. You are assuming he knew that she was missing. Not everyone pays attention to the news. Maybe her parents had a history of exaggerating things and he blew it off as them being a way. We also don't know the relationship between him and her parents. Just because they were engaged doesn't mean they were on good terms. My parents hated the guy I was engaged to at 18. Had he disappeared- my parents wouldn't have been overly helpful with helping his family with anything, but would have made sure I was covered if there was any sign I might have been a suspect. It is his problem though because he knows he has HER van. That's where any plausibility he has falls apart for me. If he had no reason to think she was dead, then he would have to assume that her parents are calling to not only find out where she is (I agree, not his problem) but also get the van back. It's a not inexpensive piece of property, of course they'd want it back. He'd have to agree on a time and place for them to get it.
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Post by hardlyluck on Sept 17, 2021 9:32:51 GMT -6
I have a theory. It’s not a particularly good one and I don’t even believe it but it is a theory. What if SHE was the one who killed those 2 women and then threatened him to stay silent. That’s why he lawyered up as soon as he got back, he’s afraid he’ll be implicated in whatever her crimes where.
Like I said, not a good theory, but it would be a plot twist.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Sept 17, 2021 9:33:16 GMT -6
GhoatMonket , I think that's totally plausible. I think where it falls apart for me is when he gets home and her parents haven't seen or heard from her either and he still doesn't call it in. 10 days is a very long time. Aug 12 - Altercation that Resulted in Police Call Aug 25 - last facetime with mom Sept 1 - Brian arrives at his parents house Sept 11 - Gabby's parents call police. that night the police show up to Brian's house and he already has lawyer in place and doesn't talk. I think the fact that he had the lawyer in place essentially before she was reported missing is really sus. It's not like the police showed up and were like hey your fiance is missing and he was like ok I am getting a lawyer. he had one. If they told him or his parents that they were reporting her as missing, they likely accused him of something. He likely told his parents and they got a lawyer. We have no idea what conversations have actually happened between these parties- we only have what her parents are telling the media. That isn't exactly unbiased.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Sept 17, 2021 9:34:30 GMT -6
No, I'd fucking hang up on them. Or yell something about calling her bitch ass and get the story from her. She's not answering? Not my problem. Again- 20. You are assuming he knew that she was missing. Not everyone pays attention to the news. Maybe her parents had a history of exaggerating things and he blew it off as them being a way. We also don't know the relationship between him and her parents. Just because they were engaged doesn't mean they were on good terms. My parents hated the guy I was engaged to at 18. Had he disappeared- my parents wouldn't have been overly helpful with helping his family with anything, but would have made sure I was covered if there was any sign I might have been a suspect. It is his problem though because he knows he has HER van. That's where any plausibility he has falls apart for me. If he had no reason to think she was dead, then he would have to assume that her parents are calling to not only find out where she is (I agree, not his problem) but also get the van back. It's a not inexpensive piece of property, of course they'd want it back. He'd have to agree on a time and place for them to get it. So? That is a weird angle. Ooo, he has her van. That's not a smoking gun. And why would he give her parents in New York her van that is in Florida where she lives? Terrible reach. I hope you stretched.
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Post by Sundae on Sept 17, 2021 9:35:38 GMT -6
Didn't Reddit already contact that family and investigate that photo yesterday? I thought I was on the toilet last night when I read that. They said they tried, but the Instagram was made private and the DMs weren't responded to. They were trying to get the original photo, pre-insta upload, as the photo gets degraded when uploading. Looks like the thing they thought was the brown bag was the other person's hair. And the "white bag" was his shirt.
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Post by McBenny on Sept 17, 2021 9:38:26 GMT -6
Didn't Reddit already contact that family and investigate that photo yesterday? I thought I was on the toilet last night when I read that. They said they tried, but the Instagram was made private and the DMs weren't responded to. They were trying to get the original photo, pre-insta upload, as the photo gets degraded when uploading. Looks like the thing they thought was the brown bag was the other person's hair. And the "white bag" was his shirt. Uh no someone spoke to the family yesterday.
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Post by McBenny on Sept 17, 2021 9:38:52 GMT -6
Damn right I would make my IG private instead of having creepers looking at my vacation photos.
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Post by Sundae on Sept 17, 2021 9:39:26 GMT -6
They said they tried, but the Instagram was made private and the DMs weren't responded to. They were trying to get the original photo, pre-insta upload, as the photo gets degraded when uploading. Looks like the thing they thought was the brown bag was the other person's hair. And the "white bag" was his shirt. Uh no someone spoke to the family yesterday. Ok, sorry didn't see that.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Sept 17, 2021 9:40:03 GMT -6
Damn right I would make my IG private instead of having creepers looking at my vacation photos. And probably eleventy billion people sending DMs.
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Post by ouijabored on Sept 17, 2021 9:42:13 GMT -6
It is his problem though because he knows he has HER van. That's where any plausibility he has falls apart for me. If he had no reason to think she was dead, then he would have to assume that her parents are calling to not only find out where she is (I agree, not his problem) but also get the van back. It's a not inexpensive piece of property, of course they'd want it back. He'd have to agree on a time and place for them to get it. So? That is a weird angle. Ooo, he has her van. That's not a smoking gun. And why would he give her parents in New York her van that is in Florida where she lives? Terrible reach. I hope you stretched. I just think it's weird and incredibly suspect that he refused to talk to the family after he arrived in FL with their van. If he had no reason to think she was missing or dead, why wouldn't he just pick up the phone and be like, yeah I have the van, make a plan to come pick it up. Instead he gets a lawyer and refuses to say a word to them or the police about it.
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Post by RunsforWineandCarbs on Sept 17, 2021 9:42:16 GMT -6
all the comments on his ig are new ones calling him a killer and assuming he's guilty. at this point, i'd delete the account. or make it private. but it's there and it's public.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Sept 17, 2021 9:42:47 GMT -6
I have a theory. It’s not a particularly good one and I don’t even believe it but it is a theory. What if SHE was the one who killed those 2 women and then threatened him to stay silent. That’s why he lawyered up as soon as he got back, he’s afraid he’ll be implicated in whatever her crimes where. Like I said, not a good theory, but it would be a plot twist. We can add it to the spreadsheet.
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Post by Foxy on Sept 17, 2021 9:44:44 GMT -6
Totally. But not cooperating with the police at all? What do you consider "cooperating"? We have no idea what is going on between him and his lawyer and law enforcement. And if he has given info, it's smart as hell to not release that because people are fucking idiots and will go traipsing around trying to solve it themselves and get in the way. There's a thread someone started about doing a search and rescue and in the comments actual SAR was like NO PLEASE DON'T, you will ruin any potential evidence there might be and more lives might be lost in the process.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Sept 17, 2021 9:47:30 GMT -6
So? That is a weird angle. Ooo, he has her van. That's not a smoking gun. And why would he give her parents in New York her van that is in Florida where she lives? Terrible reach. I hope you stretched. I just think it's weird and incredibly suspect that he refused to talk to the family after he arrived in FL with their van. If he had no reason to think she was missing or dead, why wouldn't he just pick up the phone and be like, yeah I have the van, make a plan to come pick it up. Instead he gets a lawyer and refuses to say a word to them or the police about it. Did he have a good relationship with them before? If not why would he suddenly start talking to them? Why would her give her van to her parents if he thinks she is still alive and expects her to get it? If they lived close by, sure he could drive it there and leave it. Long distance? Nah. We've covered why he's going through a lawyer.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Sept 17, 2021 9:48:56 GMT -6
all the comments on his ig are new ones calling him a killer and assuming he's guilty. at this point, i'd delete the account. or make it private. but it's there and it's public. Would you log in at this point? And I would assume that his lawyer is advising him on how to handle this aspect and it's not really his call.
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Post by ouijabored on Sept 17, 2021 9:49:11 GMT -6
The body cam footage was really interesting, I watched the first 45 minutes of it. In the video the police determined that she was the primary aggressor in the dispute & that they were going to have to charge her with domestic assault. Brian didn't want to pursue any charges. Honestly aside seeming a little anxious/jumpy from talking to the cops, he seemed like a pretty calm dude, from how both she & him described his part in the incident. It seemed like she was freaking out & he was trying to get space from her, & she wasn't having that. Based on what I saw it would be hard to imagine him killing her. Of course anything is possible, but that's my perception. Honestly I bet that whole thing was really embarrassing for her. See, and I watched it and got weird vibes from him. Calling her crazy and kind of laughing at the situation. She kept apologizing for herself. It reminded me a lot of my sister's narcissistic abusive ex boyfriend. He would push and push and belittle her until she broke, and then she was always the bad guy. Also, yes, that is me projecting a bit. This or it even could have happened accidentally. Say she freaked out at him again, trying to slap or punch him, he pushes her off, she tries to go at him again, they get into some kind of physical tussle, and somehow she winds up dead. He freaks out and runs. When it comes to these types of situation, it's usually the simplest answer. The boyfriend with a history of DV did it rather than some random killer who coincidentally meets up with her after she leaves the boyfriend who assaulted her.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Sept 17, 2021 9:58:48 GMT -6
See, and I watched it and got weird vibes from him. Calling her crazy and kind of laughing at the situation. She kept apologizing for herself. It reminded me a lot of my sister's narcissistic abusive ex boyfriend. He would push and push and belittle her until she broke, and then she was always the bad guy. Also, yes, that is me projecting a bit. This or it even could have happened accidentally. Say she freaked out at him again, trying to slap or punch him, he pushes her off, she tries to go at him again, they get into some kind of physical tussle, and somehow she winds up dead. He freaks out and runs. When it comes to these types of situation, it's usually the simplest answer. The boyfriend with a history of DV did it rather than some random killer who coincidentally meets up with her after she leaves the boyfriend who assaulted her. If he didn't do it and she's not alive, I doubt it would be another person as the cause. Either an injury caused by a fall where she is out by herself and can't get help, getting lost and dying from exposure, or suicide. If there is a person directly involved in her death, it's definitely him.
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Post by leatherpants on Sept 17, 2021 10:01:27 GMT -6
I’m late to this bus but I’m on now.
I can’t imagine her parents watching that body cam footage now, with the way everything is unfolding.
That dude is totally guilty.
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Post by CestLaVie on Sept 17, 2021 10:01:57 GMT -6
Brian's sister just made a statement that she "wants this all to be a big misunderstanding" and that Gabby was like a sister to her. Just more speculation with no real info.
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