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Post by hawkward on Jul 19, 2021 11:50:06 GMT -6
My pearls were clutched and are now rolling on the floor a month or two early or late for vaccines for everything else is no biggie, so I'd equate an almost 12 year old getting it a bit early the same. a year early I'd definitely question and clutch pearls. I’m more worried about the provider getting fucked over than I am about the actual age thing. I’m not actually worried about the effect on the child. But if any had happened, or eventually when his records are off if it gets looked into, someone could choose to come after the vaccinator.
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Post by STP on Jul 19, 2021 11:52:30 GMT -6
My pearls were clutched and are now rolling on the floor a month or two early or late for vaccines for everything else is no biggie, so I'd equate an almost 12 year old getting it a bit early the same. a year early I'd definitely question and clutch pearls. It would be the lying. For me.
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Post by wasabi on Jul 19, 2021 11:54:32 GMT -6
I am quite aghast at the lying about ages to get the vaccine. For many, many reasons.
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Post by STP on Jul 19, 2021 11:58:27 GMT -6
I’m also shocked a pedi would have okay’d the plan to lie for vaccine age just bc of the liability.
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Post by yoginikiki on Jul 19, 2021 11:58:41 GMT -6
I am concerned but trying to maintain perspective. I have shifted concern to mental health and am trying to balance mental and physical safety for my children as best I can. I am finding the mental health fallout from all of this very overwhelming both personally and definitely professionally.
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Post by microworm on Jul 19, 2021 12:03:41 GMT -6
My pearls were clutched and are now rolling on the floor a month or two early or late for vaccines for everything else is no biggie, so I'd equate an almost 12 year old getting it a bit early the same. a year early I'd definitely question and clutch pearls. I'm a rule follower. Cant stop wont stop. But A+ confession. Should have saved it for Fri.
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Post by Nonniedee on Jul 19, 2021 12:08:30 GMT -6
Nonniedee that school situation sounds amazing and safe. I wish more could be like that! They make us do daily questionnaires and temp checks and that’s kind of a joke, but overall I’m team better safe than sorry That’s the daily screening healthscreening.schools.nyc/
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Post by jaidit on Jul 19, 2021 12:12:48 GMT -6
I’m still slightly worried, but feel good at the precautions our government it taking: -requiring all health care professionals and ppl who work with at risk patients to get vaccinated before sept 15 -requiring everyone over 12 to prove vaccination status or negative test result to go to restaurants, museums, any place over 50 person capacity -maintaining indoor mask mandate (this will most likely continue through the winter) -requiring 24 hour recent PCR tests from high risk countries to enter france
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Post by miawallace on Jul 19, 2021 12:14:00 GMT -6
C is going back full time by august 5th. Masks will be mandated indoors and they would revisit and/or adjust in the fall. Los Angeles be Los Angelesing though. There’s always something and people still suck.
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Post by AnnPerkins on Jul 19, 2021 12:18:18 GMT -6
I’m also holding out hope for getting the kids vaccinated in September. We’ve been told to start preparing for younger kids, and we were told that a few weeks before the 12-15 age group was announced. This is my North Star that I am trying to focus all of my energy into making a reality.
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Post by piratecat on Jul 19, 2021 12:20:36 GMT -6
joy my kid was sick over the weekend and I gave him at home test from CVS. Is that an option where you’re at? I think so. I just find the delta variant’s veracity to be concerning and I’d like updated guidelines to reflect that. The symptoms are more in line with a common cold so while we all collectively figure it out, the parents are left going “so what do I do?” I would haaaate to be the parent that sends her kid with what she thought was a cold and actually delta. But, I also have to work. I know the rapid tests aren’t super accurate. I know nothing about these at home tests. Oh well. It is what it is. I'm surprised that your pediatrician won't test with symptoms. Tests are so readily available right now, at least around here, there's no reason not to test an unvaccinated kid in a childcare setting with symptoms. How frustrating. My pediatrician offers molecular rapid tests which I understand is very accurate. I believe the rapid antigen tests (we use BinaxNow) are more accurate when you have symptoms.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 12:22:25 GMT -6
It just will always boggle my mind how the central US and the coasts are entirely opposite worlds when it comes to COVID.
Mask mandates are illegal in schools here. Hospital systems are moving away from testing every admitted patient and are just testing those with symptoms. I am usually the only masked person in most stores or other indoor activities. It has been that way here for months.
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Post by AnnPerkins on Jul 19, 2021 12:24:57 GMT -6
It's actually not too often that I'm annoyed with myself for having my kids spaced out in age(12,7,3), but boy it sure would be great if I didn't have to wait even longer for the 3yo to get her doses.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jul 19, 2021 12:28:00 GMT -6
I am quite aghast at the lying about ages to get the vaccine. For many, many reasons. Funny as I was encouraged to lie to get in line earlier for mine. There was a whole thread about dancing around the guidelines so one didn't have to wait. Anyway, yes, I get why it's not a great idea. It's not like I grabbed him and ran straight to CVS.
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Post by hawkward on Jul 19, 2021 12:29:39 GMT -6
It just will always boggle my mind how the central US and the coasts are entirely opposite worlds when it comes to COVID. Mask mandates are illegal in schools here. Hospital systems are moving away from testing every admitted patient and are just testing those with symptoms. I am usually the only masked person in most stores or other indoor activities. It has been that way here for months. I don’t know if it’s statewide, but my mom sent me her hospital’s updated OSHA guidelines that started July 1. They finally have an enforceable hospital mask mandate 16 months into a pandemic. NBD, right?
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Post by Cher on Jul 19, 2021 12:35:13 GMT -6
I am quite aghast at the lying about ages to get the vaccine. For many, many reasons. Funny as I was encouraged to lie to get in line earlier for mine. There was a whole thread about dancing around the guidelines so one didn't have to wait. Anyway, yes, I get why it's not a great idea. It's not like I grabbed him and ran straight to CVS. The thing I read which had a number of people in similar situations (kids almost 12, summer plans, etc.) said their pedis had a similar “do what you need to do” response. The comparison to us getting vax in the spring is interesting, I haven’t thought of that. But framing it in that sense, I can understand how a pedi may not encourage it but may not discourage it either, if a kid is right on the cusp. It’s scary and I suppose we’re all anxious to get kids vaxxed, even medical professionals.
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Post by thatgolfb on Jul 19, 2021 12:40:04 GMT -6
Yep. I shared this on CEP covid thread, but my H’s (all fully vaccinated with varying vaccines) friends went to Vegas a week and a half ago, and half of them have covid now. Most of them have kids. One didn’t have symptoms but was positive. Most had mild symptoms, but one had it really bad. No idea if it’s the delta variant.
I’m extremely thankful H didn’t go on that trip.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 12:40:27 GMT -6
piratecat Ds1 developed a low grade fever this weekend with no other Covid symptoms (he was tired but had slept like crap in the days before). Our pediatrician advised since he didn’t have head/respiratory symptoms and the viruses they’ve been seeing in office combined with our local rate (4 active cases in the county) that he didn’t warrant a test. I still feel like I’m doing something wrong though.
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Post by pearbear on Jul 19, 2021 12:42:47 GMT -6
I am not really all that pearl clutchy at what curlie did, but to me, the difference in lying about an 11yo's age and when what was done this past spring (figuring out how to get our vaccines before our assigned age group distribution) is that the vaccine is not currently approved for children under 12. But again, I don't think lying about a kid's age who is weeks away from 12 is all that big of a deal.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 12:44:31 GMT -6
I am not in a good head place at all. H is much more risk taking as I am so he’s okay with anything but large indoor events or outdoor ones where we can’t distance. I’d like to keep our bubble and activities small since I don’t know everyone’s vax status.
I know DS1 will br full time in the fall, it’s just a matter of if he’ll be required to mask. I have to keep yelling at him though for improperly wearing it because everyone around him wears it wrong he says at school. And that he hates breathing on himself. Sensory issues with this suck.
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Post by thatgolfb on Jul 19, 2021 12:46:01 GMT -6
Yep. I shared this on CEP covid thread, but my H’s (all fully vaccinated with varying vaccines) friends went to Vegas a week and a half ago, and half of them have covid now. Most of them have kids. One didn’t have symptoms but was positive. Most had mild symptoms, but one had it really bad. No idea if it’s the delta variant. I’m extremely thankful H didn’t go on that trip. That is where a few of my friends went as well and came back with Covid. We also have a ton of people at work out with Covid as well and our offices are in casinos in Vegas. Ugh. I realized just recently that these guys physically went to the big UFC fight too. So like, just a cesspool of people. I’m guessing masks weren’t required? Even if they didn’t pick it up there, they could have been contagious. Ahhhhh.
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Post by pearbear on Jul 19, 2021 12:47:00 GMT -6
I am kind of all over the place lately with how I feel on Covid. I can't go back to stressing and fretting over it constantly. Nor can I go back to staying home all the time. I started a new job recently that requires me to travel 2 hours away and stay in a hotel once a week and the change to my mental health has been immeasurable. I didn't even realize what a shell of a person I had become until finally being back in a office and interacting with people again.
I do hope that my 7yo can get the vaccine this fall and that my 3yo will be close behind. I'll feel so much better when they are vaccinated. No one masks here in OH anymore. Luckily I now work in a health care setting, so at least my job is 100% fully masked at all times.
Also, I am more and more certain that despite my vaccine, I might have had Covid a few weeks ago. I had what I thought was a terrible cold, but I have had some really odd/not at all typical for me lingering impacts (extreme shortness of breath, elevated heart rate especially when working out or doing anything physical, recurring bouts of vertigo). It's just really odd and nothing I have ever had from a cold before. I literally feel like I am chain smoking daily with how my lungs feel when I work out. There's no real way to know though since I've been vaccinated, but it's puzzling for sure.
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Post by thatgolfb on Jul 19, 2021 12:47:26 GMT -6
Anyway, we mask indoors always still. The only time I haven’t has been when I’m alone and just like running into Starbucks or something. But my kids mask everywhere indoors. I don’t really make them wear one outdoors, but we haven’t been anywhere super crowded. And DD1 was required to mask at both Girl Scout camp and Y camp.
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Post by thatgolfb on Jul 19, 2021 12:48:09 GMT -6
I think masks will be required here for school in the fall, and I’m very happy about that.
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Post by Rusty Red on Jul 19, 2021 12:48:48 GMT -6
Our governor has already put forth something saying vaccines won't be mandated for school children, so I have no doubt masks won't be either. I know those are different animals, just know which way he will go on requiring masks when the kids go back.
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Post by melohdy on Jul 19, 2021 12:49:09 GMT -6
This is probably a dumb question - and I WILL do my own research as well; but does anyone know the status of vaccination approval outside of the emergency approval? H and I are both vaccinated but he is very very hesitant to get our girls vaccinated when it comes available because of all of the unknowns.
Both girls will be going back to school in person mid-August. Add me to the list of those who had to weigh the health vs. mental health risks. Both girls (and me) have lasting challenges as a result of distance learning last year (8yo was self harming for a time before we got her into therapy and the 5yo has developed separation anxiety). Last I heard, the school will not be requiring masks. I'll have my girls wear them to school; but I am under no delusions that they'll keep them on if all their friends aren't wearing them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 12:49:19 GMT -6
pearbear I'm sorry you're still feeling cruddy. An antibody test would still tell you if you'd had COVID or not regardless of vaccination status.
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Post by pearbear on Jul 19, 2021 12:49:34 GMT -6
thatgolfb, the story of that Vegas trip is just wild. I can't believe so many of them ended up with it! When I first saw you post about it on Politics it is what made me start to think more about my own symptoms and how the vaccine really isn't meant to 100% shield us from it. I so wish I had gotten tested.
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Post by piratecat on Jul 19, 2021 12:49:38 GMT -6
piratecat Ds1 developed a low grade fever this weekend with no other Covid symptoms (he was tired but had slept like crap in the days before). Our pediatrician advised since he didn’t have head/respiratory symptoms and the viruses they’ve been seeing in office combined with our local rate (4 active cases in the county) that he didn’t warrant a test. I still feel like I’m doing something wrong though. I didn't read joy's post carefully. I guess it does depend on which symptom(s). I've had my kid vomit and the pediatrician would have written a note to return to preschool without a test -- they said since it is considered a secondary symptom. But I've also had multiple instances where the pediatrician was fine not testing but also gave me the option to test, for peace of mind and because my husband is immunocompromised. If my kids had symptoms that would keep them from daycare I would be asking for a test.
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Post by millimeter314 on Jul 19, 2021 12:52:35 GMT -6
I had been feeling better but now I’m nervous. The big kids are supposed to start second grade in person the end of August. We went to an outdoor birthday party last night and the other moms said that masking wasn’t enforced at all and some of the teachers told the kids they could leave their masks off or on their chins. There is no masking at summer school right now. I know the second grade teachers were very lax with masks, hand washing, and distancing last year.
They really, really need the interaction with other kids. They need time away from home and from each other. This past year was really hard on them. They won’t have remote learning but there is a virtual option this year. I heard it was really intense, though.
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