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Post by notblanche on Jul 19, 2021 10:34:45 GMT -6
What vaccination % are other areas that feels like a good amount. We are hovering just above 50% for vax started and a bit below 50% for fully vaxed. So basically I go anywhere and figure half are not vaxed at all and its not really encouraging to me My county has 68% of adults fully vaccinated and 57% of total population, 75% and 63% with one dose.
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Post by AmyG on Jul 19, 2021 10:35:34 GMT -6
What vaccination % are other areas that feels like a good amount. We are hovering just above 50% for vax started and a bit below 50% for fully vaxed. So basically I go anywhere and figure half are not vaxed at all and its not really encouraging to me The whole state is around 50% vaccinated. My county only 35%. So I assume anywhere I go the majority are not vaccinated. My kids mexican grandma next door, her oldest son is currently on ecmo. Az reports 10-20 deaths a day most in my county. number of deaths went down to that level and remained there.
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Post by Cher on Jul 19, 2021 10:37:52 GMT -6
I posted asking this on my IG a few days ago because we have end of summer travel planned and the numbers have started to scare me. A few really smart, rational people have talked me down. They reminded me that the goal was never to eradicate Covid or never to get Covid. The science for the past year has been saying we will live alongside Covid and vaccines will help us lower death/hospitalization. Which is whats happening. We have an aggressive strain right now so numbers are increasing, but the research is showing vaxxed people are avoiding death/hospitalization. If this is our reality for the foreseeable future, we need to anticipate that and hope more people get vaccinated.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 10:39:16 GMT -6
Has anyone stopped to think too that if the COVID vaccine truly is going to be an annual booster type schedule we would have to start the whole vaccination process over in December? I know Pfizer is currently researching a third dose. I wonder if decreased efficacy in combination with Delta variant is to blame for the number of breakthrough cases we are seeing.
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Post by coffeecake on Jul 19, 2021 10:40:22 GMT -6
My area has a fairly high vaccination rate and low numbers, so I was feeling better this spring and beginning of summer. But now the delta variant is making me nervous about our (fully vaxxed) older family members. And I’m nervous about school. Last year my kids went in-person and there were lots of precautions taken. The year went really well. But now the anti-mask parents are making noise and the school district announced masks are optional for everyone, which pisses me off. It makes no sense!
My kids did great with masks last year and I want them wearing them again. But my oldest is 11 and young for her grade, which means lots of her classmates will be vaccinated and not wearing masks. I feel like the kids wearing masks are going to get made fun of and she’s not going to do it.
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Post by hawkward on Jul 19, 2021 10:40:52 GMT -6
I posted asking this on my IG a few days ago because we have end of summer travel planned and the numbers have started to scare me. A few really smart, rational people have talked me down. They reminded me that the goal was never to eradicate Covid or never to get Covid. The science for the past year has been saying we will live alongside Covid and vaccines will help us lower death/hospitalization. Which is what happening. We have an aggressive strain right now so numbers are increasing, but the research is showing vaxxed people are avoiding death/hospitalization. If this is our reality for the foreseeable future, we need to anticipate that and hope more people get vaccinated. This is where I’m at intellectually. Emotionally, not so much.
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Post by Cher on Jul 19, 2021 10:41:43 GMT -6
As for kids, I will always feel vulnerable until my kids can be vaccinated. But for my kids, they need the socialization. So it’s risk/benefit analysis and for us, it’s a clear answer. I saw such a dramatic change in both of them after quarantine that MH and I decided that them being in school will always be the priority. We will give up everything before we give up that. So I have them in camp, school, doing play dates, etc. I will always worry until they can be vaxxed. But, for us, it’s what they need.
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Post by Tlex on Jul 19, 2021 10:42:05 GMT -6
For my kids, only adults in their school will be vaccinated in September, no children attending will be old enough to have had a vaccine (unless something gets announced real fast). I’m not sure if it’s mandatory for adults working in the school board to get the vaccine, I would guess yes since other vaccines and a negative TB test are mandatory but I’ll have to look it up.
I would be fine with vaccinated teachers going unmasked but I hope they keep kids masked until they can be vaccinated too.
The schools in my area do not have proper ventilation systems, and that’s my major concern right now. Our province is refusing to acknowledge that covid is spread by airborne transmission as a means of escaping responsibility for upgrading ventilation systems (or putting them in if they don’t even exist yet). If your children attend a school with a great ventilation system (kind of guessing they do, since you probably have AC in the schools since they’re going in August in Alabama) then I would find that a comfort.
In general I’m a lot less worried about getting covid, but I remain concerned about being an accidental spreader myself, and I’m worried about children more now that we have the Delta variant than I was last winter, for example. I continue to mask in all but outdoor settings because the idea of myself being a variant creator and/or spreader is so awful to me.
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Post by hawkward on Jul 19, 2021 10:42:48 GMT -6
Has anyone stopped to think too that if the COVID vaccine truly is going to be an annual booster type schedule we would have to start the whole vaccination process over in December? I know Pfizer is currently researching a third dose. I wonder if decreased efficacy in combination with Delta variant is to blame for the number of breakthrough cases we are seeing. My Pfizer guy says the hope is that with the staggering that is happening with vaccination (and since we already know covid doesn’t seem to be seasonal like the flu) that it will likely be less “wavy” like flu and flu shots. Especially with the mRNA technology theoretically allowing us to change for strains more effectively.
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Post by Cher on Jul 19, 2021 10:43:11 GMT -6
I posted asking this on my IG a few days ago because we have end of summer travel planned and the numbers have started to scare me. A few really smart, rational people have talked me down. They reminded me that the goal was never to eradicate Covid or never to get Covid. The science for the past year has been saying we will live alongside Covid and vaccines will help us lower death/hospitalization. Which is what happening. We have an aggressive strain right now so numbers are increasing, but the research is showing vaxxed people are avoiding death/hospitalization. If this is our reality for the foreseeable future, we need to anticipate that and hope more people get vaccinated. This is where I’m at intellectually. Emotionally, not so much. I get it. I check the numbers in like 30 counties first thing in the morning. I share your anxiety. I keep telling myself I can’t spend the next years of my life panicking if I need to expect this. But I get it, I totally do.
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Post by hawkward on Jul 19, 2021 10:46:00 GMT -6
I was more relaxed about it with school being out (though DS is in daycare) and H and I both being vaxxed. Our immediate area is doing ok, but with a couple major events going on this month, I can see a lot of exposure potential and we are likely going to reign things in a bit. DS stays home from stores for the most part anyway. Masks aren't required for school, but are strongly suggested. We will send him with one. He's been one to keep it on even when not needed, so I'm not worried about him in that regard. I will feel a lot better once he can get a shot. He's big enough that he looks 12- can that be a qualifier? He wants one as soon as he can get it for him and so he doesn't get others sick. My 10 year old gets it. But not grown ass moronic Trumpers. We lied about my 11 year old's age and got him vaccinated. After talking to a doctor about it, if that needs to be said. Maybe that's a confession. I’m kind of shocked this flew, actually. In the clinics I’ve worked we’ve turned a lot of kids (well, their parents) lying about their ages away. We started requiring proof because of the number of people coaching their kids to lie about their birthdates. I’d be upset as a vaccinator because you essentially led someone into a med error. But as a parent, I do understand.
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Jul 19, 2021 10:46:29 GMT -6
What vaccination % are other areas that feels like a good amount. We are hovering just above 50% for vax started and a bit below 50% for fully vaxed. So basically I go anywhere and figure half are not vaxed at all and its not really encouraging to me My county has 68% of adults fully vaccinated and 57% of total population, 75% and 63% with one dose. My county is at 74% of the total population fully vaccinated, two weeks post-second-shot. But I think we are among the highest in the country, if not the highest. Our 7 day rolling average case count is 12.
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Post by sheilathetank on Jul 19, 2021 10:46:45 GMT -6
What vaccination % are other areas that feels like a good amount. We are hovering just above 50% for vax started and a bit below 50% for fully vaxed. So basically I go anywhere and figure half are not vaxed at all and its not really encouraging to me 68% of the population has received at least one dose and 62% are fully vaccinated. It also tells me that people around me know they have to get 2 doses and are actually getting 2 doses.
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Post by notblanche on Jul 19, 2021 10:46:59 GMT -6
As for kids, I will always feel vulnerable until my kids can be vaccinated. But for my kids, they need the socialization. So it’s risk/benefit analysis and for us, it’s a clear answer. I saw such a dramatic change in both of them after quarantine that MH and I decided that them being in school will always be the priority. We will give up everything before we give up that. So I have them in camp, school, doing play dates, etc. I will always worry until they can be vaxxed. But, for us, it’s what they need. I kept my kids home for a long time, a lot longer than many other people I know, and I don't regret it. But since they've been back, my 5yo especially is a different child. He needs that so much.
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Jul 19, 2021 10:47:04 GMT -6
We lied about my 11 year old's age and got him vaccinated. After talking to a doctor about it, if that needs to be said. Maybe that's a confession. I’m kind of shocked this flew, actually. In the clinics I’ve worked we’ve turned a lot of kids (well, their parents) lying about their ages away. We started requiring proof because of the number of people coaching their kids to lie about their birthdates. I’d be upset as a vaccinator because you essentially led someone into a med error. But as a parent, I do understand. Walgreens is not as discerning as the clinics you've worked in.
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Post by Ls2012 on Jul 19, 2021 10:47:35 GMT -6
I am still worried about it. We still take precautions. Kids mask anywhere inside. But Michigan just hosted a 40,000 person country music fest this weekend, so... the state sucks. The kids went to school last fall and will be going back in August again because staying home is just not an option. We are just trying to be as safe as possible in a state that has zero mask requirements currently. I'm just glad my school district said masks will still be required by everyone in building come fall. I totally thought they would cave. I'm pretty sure that's an anomaly for my county.
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Post by notblanche on Jul 19, 2021 10:48:06 GMT -6
My county has 68% of adults fully vaccinated and 57% of total population, 75% and 63% with one dose. My county is at 74% of the total population fully vaccinated, two weeks post-second-shot. But I think we are among the highest in the country, if not the highest. Our 7 day rolling average case count is 12. That's impressive.
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Post by calendula on Jul 19, 2021 10:49:20 GMT -6
What vaccination % are other areas that feels like a good amount. We are hovering just above 50% for vax started and a bit below 50% for fully vaxed. So basically I go anywhere and figure half are not vaxed at all and its not really encouraging to me 82% statewide, 74% in my county. The average daily incident rate for my town is .9% (only 5 cases in the last two weeks). 50% would make me wary too. I feel fortunate to live in a state where people are taking it seriously.
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Post by hawkward on Jul 19, 2021 10:50:54 GMT -6
I’m also holding out hope for getting the kids vaccinated in September. We’ve been told to start preparing for younger kids, and we were told that a few weeks before the 12-15 age group was announced.
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Post by abs on Jul 19, 2021 10:51:12 GMT -6
As for kids, I will always feel vulnerable until my kids can be vaccinated. But for my kids, they need the socialization. So it’s risk/benefit analysis and for us, it’s a clear answer. I saw such a dramatic change in both of them after quarantine that MH and I decided that them being in school will always be the priority. We will give up everything before we give up that. So I have them in camp, school, doing play dates, etc. I will always worry until they can be vaxxed. But, for us, it’s what they need. This is me. I saw such a huge change in DD once she was around friends again and back in school. It's 100% what is best for her and we can't go back to isolation. I think I'm going to always feel low key bitter that kids/parents have gotten screwed every step of the way though.
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Post by AmyG on Jul 19, 2021 10:54:17 GMT -6
This is where I’m at intellectually. Emotionally, not so much. I get it. I check the numbers in like 30 counties first thing in the morning. I share your anxiety. I keep telling myself I can’t spend the next years of my life panicking if I need to expect this. But I get it, I totally do. I gave up on checking number of cases. I just check the graph on number of deaths and peak at hospital percents occassionally. Then I look at az compared to other states to see we are always in the 12th highest for number of cases or 6th highest for number of deaths per 100k people. See Yeah we are still in same spot Sigh and try not to worry excessively.
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Post by hawkward on Jul 19, 2021 10:55:14 GMT -6
I’m kind of shocked this flew, actually. In the clinics I’ve worked we’ve turned a lot of kids (well, their parents) lying about their ages away. We started requiring proof because of the number of people coaching their kids to lie about their birthdates. I’d be upset as a vaccinator because you essentially led someone into a med error. But as a parent, I do understand. Walgreens is not as discerning as the clinics you've worked in. That’s kind of scary. If a kid who was not in the approved age group had an adverse reaction, it would be on the vaccinator even if the parent lied. I’ve been working under the emergency pandemic rules (I’m not licensed in the state I’m practicing so a physician is vouching for me basically), and we were told by VDH that we still had to protect our licenses, only “bending” the rules we were specifically given permission for. I’m not coming at you, to be clear. Just discussing. We seriously discussed me just bringing home some spare vax for DS1 and his (also immune compromised) BFF.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 10:55:21 GMT -6
I’m also holding out hope for getting the kids vaccinated in September. We’ve been told to start preparing for younger kids, and we were told that a few weeks before the 12-15 age group was announced. I hope you're right, but the articles I've been reading lately and the FDA's statement last week say mid-winter at earliest.
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Post by STP on Jul 19, 2021 11:00:58 GMT -6
I’m also holding out hope for getting the kids vaccinated in September. We’ve been told to start preparing for younger kids, and we were told that a few weeks before the 12-15 age group was announced. I thought the CDC said it would be winter.
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Post by STP on Jul 19, 2021 11:01:41 GMT -6
I’m kind of shocked this flew, actually. In the clinics I’ve worked we’ve turned a lot of kids (well, their parents) lying about their ages away. We started requiring proof because of the number of people coaching their kids to lie about their birthdates. I’d be upset as a vaccinator because you essentially led someone into a med error. But as a parent, I do understand. Walgreens is not as discerning as the clinics you've worked in. Woof. Lying to medical professionals is not the way.
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Post by Rusty Red on Jul 19, 2021 11:02:29 GMT -6
We're....ish here. There are a few places I will go now without a mask; I still wear it in the big retail and grocery stores. DS still doesn't go to the store with me, but we went to our first restaurant since the pandemic last week. He and I are going on a mini trip next month, the hotel still requires he be masked in public areas except the pool. We can't have another year of school at home after what happened to him last year, so we're going to take our chances with school in the fall.
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Post by ironcorgi on Jul 19, 2021 11:03:13 GMT -6
I'm vaccinated, SO is not and does not want to get the vaccine. He works for UPS, so runs into maybe four people a day, mostly in an outdoor setting. He also is terrified of getting the vaccine because I had a really bad reaction to it. DD can't get the vaccine yet.
TW mental health issues:
I honestly cannot worry like I did last year. Everybody's mental health was affected by the shut down. My little brother made suicidal outcries, DD acted out in ways I've never seen before, and my grandmother is in the midst of severe depression that she refuses to go see a doctor for. They are vaccinated, but she still does not even want to go to an outdoor venue fully masked. She sits inside all day, reading the covid headlines, and worrying. DD will go back to school in four weeks, we will continue going to the zoo, movies, etc. until then, and I honestly am not sure if I will fight the mask battle with her at school. Every time I saw her in the hallways last year, she had her mask under her chin because "nobody else was wearing a mask". I fully admit that I have COVID fatigue from worrying so much last year and I don't know if I can let myself go back into a constant state of panic.
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Post by hawkward on Jul 19, 2021 11:05:17 GMT -6
I’m also holding out hope for getting the kids vaccinated in September. We’ve been told to start preparing for younger kids, and we were told that a few weeks before the 12-15 age group was announced. I thought the CDC said it would be winter. CDC/FDA did say this. Word in my circle is though that it may be earlier. My Pfizer guy says the research is done and they’re making sure everything is airtight now. I haven’t been told anything official yet, just that we should be ready to go because when the announcement comes it’ll probably be like with the 12-15 yos when they said they hoped to release it by fall but then ended up with that age group being early summer.
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Post by notblanche on Jul 19, 2021 11:07:18 GMT -6
I read a take — on politics board I think? — that the mid-winter timeline may include all kids under 12, including the 6m-under 5 set. So the 5–11 could still come sooner. At least I really want to believe that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 11:09:35 GMT -6
I thought the CDC said it would be winter. CDC/FDA did say this. Word in my circle is though that it may be earlier. My Pfizer guy says the research is done and they’re making sure everything is airtight now. I haven’t been told anything official yet, just that we should be ready to go because when the announcement comes it’ll probably be like with the 12-15 yos when they said they hoped to release it by fall but then ended up with that age group being early summer. Do you know what age ranges they trialed? I got an email from Pfizer two weeks ago saying trials were complete and they didn't anticipate any further trials. I'm nervous they might have only tested in kids at the higher end of the under 12 age range, and I'm mentally preparing myself for an even longer wait for my kids (oldest is 6).
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