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Post by willow on Jun 30, 2021 9:18:04 GMT -6
jaygee If Tesla offered a vehicle large enough to accomodate all of us, we'd have been seriously considering it. But my H also despises Elon Musk and doesn't fully trust him so there was also that hesitation lol.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 9:19:41 GMT -6
Yes. However, there is actual antitrust energy on the Hill and in the White House now. I'd they can all get their shit together.
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Post by jaygee on Jun 30, 2021 9:20:10 GMT -6
jaygee If Tesla offered a vehicle large enough to accomodate all of us, we'd have been seriously considering it. But my H also despises Elon Musk and doesn't fully trust him so there was also that hesitation lol. Same, same. I’m a Honda person so as soon as I can get a comparable EV with a Honda name, I’m in.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 9:20:44 GMT -6
jaygee If Tesla offered a vehicle large enough to accomodate all of us, we'd have been seriously considering it. But my H also despises Elon Musk and doesn't fully trust him so there was also that hesitation lol. Same, same. I’m a Honda person so as soon as I can get a comparable EV with a Honda name, I’m in. WHERE. IS. MY. HYBRID. ODYSSEY.
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Post by willow on Jun 30, 2021 9:22:46 GMT -6
Same, same. I’m a Honda person so as soon as I can get a comparable EV with a Honda name, I’m in. WHERE. IS. MY. HYBRID. ODYSSEY. Right? I am wondering if that is coming soon since the Sienna is their direct competition as far as comparable minivans and similar brands.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 9:23:10 GMT -6
Re: Surfside, we've had more strong tropical storms in recent years than ever before. I'm not sure how you expect rebar to withstand saltwater being whipped at it at 100 mph several times every year and not erode. I'm with greykitty that it will likely be a confluence of factors and that's frustrating bc it will allow people in power to weasel out of accountability re: structural integrity, construction practices and maintenance, and climate change mitigation efforts
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Post by jaygee on Jun 30, 2021 9:36:17 GMT -6
Re: Surfside, we've had more strong tropical storms in recent years than ever before. I'm not sure how you expect rebar to withstand saltwater being whipped at it at 100 mph several times every year and not erode. I'm with greykitty that it will likely be a confluence of factors and that's frustrating bc it will allow people in power to weasel out of accountability re: structural integrity, construction practices and maintenance, and climate change mitigation efforts Yeah, I’ve been hearing about the efforts to pass along the costs of the remediations to the condo owners. One guy said it was like $150K alone for his unit - $800 a month for 15 years - so basically another mortgage on a place he already owned. The problem is that not many homeowners even in a wealthy area/building are going to vote yes to pay that. But then who does? And we had a relatively minor issue with my former condo. Basically the materials they used did not withstand the salt water and wind from the Bay and the paint and all the balconies on every unit had to be redone. It was largely cosmetic but did also impact the structural integrity of the balconies. For about a year there was litigation between the homeowners association and the builder. It wouldn’t have been impossible to sell during that time but it would have been less than ideal. Because if the litigation didn’t come out in the condo association’s favor either we would have useless balconies or we would have to be assessed to do the work.
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Post by elle on Jun 30, 2021 9:38:18 GMT -6
We lucked out with our timing last year in getting our hybrid 3 series before everything went completely sideways. I think it’s only been filled up with gas twice in the year+ that we've been driving it. I definitely have a love for that car and when we need to get a second vehicle again in the coming year (sold my H's car and didn't see the need for a 2nd one when we don't go anywhere) it'll at least be a hybrid if not a full electric.
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Post by greykitty on Jun 30, 2021 9:58:16 GMT -6
Re: Surfside, we've had more strong tropical storms in recent years than ever before. I'm not sure how you expect rebar to withstand saltwater being whipped at it at 100 mph several times every year and not erode. I'm with greykitty that it will likely be a confluence of factors and that's frustrating bc it will allow people in power to weasel out of accountability re: structural integrity, construction practices and maintenance, and climate change mitigation efforts Yeah, I’ve been hearing about the efforts to pass along the costs of the remediations to the condo owners. One guy said it was like $150K alone for his unit - $800 a month for 15 years - so basically another mortgage on a place he already owned. The problem is that not many homeowners even in a wealthy area/building are going to vote yes to pay that. But then who does? And we had a relatively minor issue with my former condo. Basically the materials they used did not withstand the salt water and wind from the Bay and the paint and all the balconies on every unit had to be redone. It was largely cosmetic but did also impact the structural integrity of the balconies. For about a year there was litigation between the homeowners association and the builder. It wouldn’t have been impossible to sell during that time but it would have been less than ideal. Because if the litigation didn’t come out in the condo association’s favor either we would have useless balconies or we would have to be assessed to do the work. Assuming remediation is well past the developer's term of responsibility, yep, it's definitely the responsibility of the owners to pay. Just like, IMO, at any level of government, it's sadly a balancing act between costs and ability to pay those costs. And, if/when 'officials' just push through the taxes/assessments, if they're legally able to do so, more than likely the voters (or condo owners) will vote to replace them. Or resort to litigation, which they'll lose, but will tie up progress for years. And way too many people never really think about long term repairs and how to fund those repairs - from a personal or social basis. Explaining why reserve studies, and reserves, are necessary in an association is an often thankless task - and people always complain their assessments and/or taxes are too high. And infrastructure is too often not considered 'sexy' enough to keep the attention of owners and voters. Board members of volunteers and most often not experts in governance or other fields, such as finance, engineering, etc. Most of the time they're definitely people trying to do their fiduciary duty - but they're human too. It's like taxes - it's awfully easy to say the 'city', 'state' or 'feds' should pay for something - let's say millions more construction inspectors who will shut down anything when needed. But eventually that money has to come from somewhere - and that's generally generic you and generic me. Yes, I'm especially cynical this morning. But I don't think it's always necessarily someone doing anything deliberately to cause a disaster. Codes change, and too often people of good will are caught between what 'should be done' and 'what can people actually afford to pay'.
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Post by greykitty on Jun 30, 2021 10:03:33 GMT -6
And guess what happens when lithium batteries end up burning? Like 100 tons of them? Evacuation orders for one. link
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 10:32:54 GMT -6
This is significant. Pelosi has also signaled a desire to place a Republican on the committee and Kiplinger's seems an obvious choice.
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Post by richard on Jun 30, 2021 10:44:05 GMT -6
WHAT THE FUCK.
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Post by cakewench on Jun 30, 2021 10:51:47 GMT -6
WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK
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Post by starbuck on Jun 30, 2021 10:58:28 GMT -6
Jesus.
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Post by jkjacq on Jun 30, 2021 11:00:25 GMT -6
Holy shit
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Post by jaygee on Jun 30, 2021 11:00:34 GMT -6
This is significant. Pelosi has also signaled a desire to place a Republican on the committee and Kiplinger's seems an obvious choice. I’ve also heard Liz Cheney as a possible choice. I prefer Adam since I’ll never trust a Cheney.
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Post by Ls2012 on Jun 30, 2021 11:01:22 GMT -6
God dammit, why?!? This is so fucked up.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 11:15:27 GMT -6
Jen is bringing EPA Administrator Michael Regan with her today
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Post by athn64 on Jun 30, 2021 11:16:18 GMT -6
This is significant. Pelosi has also signaled a desire to place a Republican on the committee and Kiplinger's seems an obvious choice. I'm pretty sure they'll kick him out of the party soon. But I'm glad he's got a conscious.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 11:16:43 GMT -6
Wow. To hell with those prosecutors. That's very serious misconduct that now has dangerous implications.
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Post by richard on Jun 30, 2021 11:18:07 GMT -6
Wow. To hell with those prosecutors. That's very serious misconduct that now has dangerous implications. ::endless scream::
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Post by athn64 on Jun 30, 2021 11:18:52 GMT -6
Wow. To hell with those prosecutors. That's very serious misconduct that now has dangerous implications. ::endless scream:: Fuck him
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 11:19:55 GMT -6
Wow. To hell with those prosecutors. That's very serious misconduct that now has dangerous implications. ::endless scream:: And isn't he related to human cringe Steve Castor from Trumpeachment v1.0?
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 11:27:17 GMT -6
Administrator Regan is announcing new sensors EPA will install in high smoke/wildfire prone areas to help officials and residents to prepare and evacuate when needed. Learn more at ready.gov/wildfires
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 11:29:45 GMT -6
I think Castor is also representing some of the January 6th people
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 11:30:50 GMT -6
Regan: replacing lead service pipes throughout the nation will protect children, enhance and improve public health, and create good union jobs to help America build back better
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 11:32:54 GMT -6
Regan: EPA is returning staffing to and beyond pre-Trump levels to ensure the agency can pursue its vision
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 11:34:39 GMT -6
Yamiche notes reporting that there could be toxic particles in the air and ground water from the Florida condo collapse and recalls the devastating effects on 9/11 first responders. Regan says that EPA is working with officials on the ground to protect the first responders and locals.
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Post by dc2london on Jun 30, 2021 11:37:21 GMT -6
Brian Karem asked about the millions of Americans who rely on well water that is contaminated. Regan basically says they're addressing drinking water concerns in all forms. Karem is not satisfied with that and says the agency needs to more aggressively pursue polluters.
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