richard
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Jul 7, 2021 16:45:57 GMT -6
Post by richard on Jul 7, 2021 16:45:57 GMT -6
I really like Richard E. Grant in general and thought he did a great job in this episode.
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fatpony
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Jul 7, 2021 17:18:00 GMT -6
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Post by fatpony on Jul 7, 2021 17:18:00 GMT -6
I think I'm going to get Sylvie's hair at my next cut.
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richard
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Jul 7, 2021 17:21:26 GMT -6
Post by richard on Jul 7, 2021 17:21:26 GMT -6
I think I'm going to get Sylvie's hair at my next cut. RIGHT? My hair doesn't wave and I have all the jealousy.
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Jul 7, 2021 17:26:46 GMT -6
Post by greykitty on Jul 7, 2021 17:26:46 GMT -6
Did anyone lose an arm or hand during WandaVision? I've read that almost every MCU movie seems to end up with someone losing an arm, because Kevin Feige pays homage to Luke Skywalker arm being amputated by his father.
I think FATWS pretty much follows this (well, Bucky has lost his arm in at least two movies, and momentarily in one episode of FATWS). And now a hand was taken by Alligator Loki. I'm not sure how we look at Vision being torn to shreds in WandaVision counts?
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athn64
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Jul 7, 2021 20:04:12 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jul 7, 2021 20:04:12 GMT -6
So was that a tiny Thor in a jar next to his hammer as they panned down to their hiding place in the void? I couldn't tell. Wasn't sure if it were Thor or a different Loki. Especially since only Loki variants seem to survive.
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Jul 7, 2021 20:08:24 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jul 7, 2021 20:08:24 GMT -6
That was a really great episode. And a really powerful ending. They are the same, yet different. I feel like the relationship between older Loki and Child Loki was similar to "our" Loki and Sylvie. In that they have moved past the original Loki personality and drive into something more. I was sad that older Loki got killed, but he did an excellent job. I enjoyed the betrayal scene where all the Loki's fought each other to be "king" of the wasteland.
I wonder what Mobius's next move is going to be. How does he show up at the TVA and not get pruned right away.
I also wonder if that's the real Timekeepers behind the void. Or is it someone or something else. I saw someone theorizing that Kang the Conqueror is involved, but he's the villain in the next Ant-Man movie, so I'm not sure how realistic that is.
I can't believe there's only one more! I both want it now, and don't because I don't want it to be over.
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richard
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Jul 7, 2021 21:15:37 GMT -6
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Post by richard on Jul 7, 2021 21:15:37 GMT -6
Maybe itās because of how WandaVision ended, but I feel like whateverās beyond isnāt going to be a brand-new character. Maybe like another Loki variant or the TVA lady or even Kid Loki (they said itās his kingdom and he killed his Thor and whereād he go at the end when old Loki came back?)
Iād love to be wrong.
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Jul 8, 2021 4:21:35 GMT -6
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Post by Lakes on Jul 8, 2021 4:21:35 GMT -6
I guess a crazy pizza car is almost as good as a jet ski. I was glad to see Mobius again.
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Jul 8, 2021 10:34:53 GMT -6
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Post by pianolove on Jul 8, 2021 10:34:53 GMT -6
I guess a crazy pizza car is almost as good as a jet ski. I was glad to see Mobius again. I laughed out loud at the pizza car, it was just so for this episode lol
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Jul 8, 2021 10:38:44 GMT -6
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Post by pianolove on Jul 8, 2021 10:38:44 GMT -6
I laughed so hard at all the Lokis fighting each other. How else would that have ended lol.
Dying for next week so we can see whoās living in that castle.
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Jul 8, 2021 10:54:16 GMT -6
Post by fatpony on Jul 8, 2021 10:54:16 GMT -6
I was so confused by all the multiple Loki adventure talk and Mobius's return...then I realized that I thought we had caught up but we're still one episdoe behind.
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athn64
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Jul 8, 2021 10:55:37 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jul 8, 2021 10:55:37 GMT -6
Maybe itās because of how WandaVision ended, but I feel like whateverās beyond isnāt going to be a brand-new character. Maybe like another Loki variant or the TVA lady or even Kid Loki (they said itās his kingdom and he killed his Thor and whereād he go at the end when old Loki came back?) Iād love to be wrong. yeah. I keep wondering if it's a Loki.
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Jul 8, 2021 11:49:07 GMT -6
Post by greykitty on Jul 8, 2021 11:49:07 GMT -6
Maybe itās because of how WandaVision ended, but I feel like whateverās beyond isnāt going to be a brand-new character. Maybe like another Loki variant or the TVA lady or even Kid Loki (they said itās his kingdom and he killed his Thor and whereād he go at the end when old Loki came back?) Iād love to be wrong. yeah. I keep wondering if it's a Loki. There seems to be a fair amount of internet speculation along the lines that it's Loki. When it's not Kang. I'm just here for the ride and now really looking forward to Dr Strange 2.
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Jul 8, 2021 11:51:44 GMT -6
Post by greykitty on Jul 8, 2021 11:51:44 GMT -6
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Jul 8, 2021 12:15:02 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jul 8, 2021 12:15:02 GMT -6
I don't see them introing Dr. Doom since they are planning on doing Fantastic Four, but not for a couple more years.
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Post by RajahMD on Jul 8, 2021 16:44:09 GMT -6
Oh my god, I'm so sad about classic Loki.
On a semi-related note, I'm slightly uncomfortable with the size of classic Loki's bulge, lol.
I love Sylvie so much. She's the best.
The Lokis betraying each other and fighting was hysterical. I loved how our Loki was just kinda like "keep me out of this" and trying to walk around it. Really personifies his character growth.
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Jul 11, 2021 11:01:41 GMT -6
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Post by willow on Jul 11, 2021 11:01:41 GMT -6
This is a very well done series. All of the time and apocalyptic/end of time stuff really amps up my anxiety though and I have noticed that every night after I watch a new episode, I have absolutely horrible nightmares. At least there is only one episode left so that will hopefully be short lived. But Iām also really enjoying it so I donāt want it to end at the same time!
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Jul 11, 2021 11:14:10 GMT -6
Post by greykitty on Jul 11, 2021 11:14:10 GMT -6
What If starts August 11. So not a huge amount of down time. I am now very much looking forward to Hawkeye, though.
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Jul 11, 2021 17:03:55 GMT -6
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Post by theseaword on Jul 11, 2021 17:03:55 GMT -6
This has been my favorite marvel property by far. Iām usually pretty lukewarm on it. I think itās the Loki character combined with the unique aesthetic that Iām digging. Finding out there is a season two up ended my expectations for what would happen in the finale. Very excited for Wednesday!
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Jul 11, 2021 20:11:41 GMT -6
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Post by adventurebright on Jul 11, 2021 20:11:41 GMT -6
That was a great episode! Also bummed about old Loki, but that was a powerful scene. The castleā¦.. who will it beā¦. I donāt even have a guess.
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Jul 12, 2021 10:27:40 GMT -6
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Post by overboard on Jul 12, 2021 10:27:40 GMT -6
Oh, my. I wouldn't trust Renslayer as far as I could throw her. I hope B19 scared her with the want versus need statement. I've become a big Sylvie fan. Hope I'm not disappointed. Such dramatic music - and I cried for classic Loki. Assuming Young Loki lives - and joins Young Avengers? I adore Alligator Loki. Thanos copter! Yay Mobius - I like you more now too. Kind of expecting 'our' Loki's last words to be fulfilled somewhere along the line here in Phase 4 - I assure you brother, the sun will shine on us again. Hard to believe there's one episode left. Renslayer plays an excellent bad guy. She makes it easy to hate her. B19 being in captivity but still not broken was excellent to see. I canāt remember where I saw it, but classic Loki seemed to love this part. He said something about when he told his dad what he wanted to do for the rest of his life, his dad asked him if he really wanted to wear make up and play dress up the rest of his life. He said he would have loved to have his dad seeing him playing this part at 65 years old.
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Jul 12, 2021 13:01:43 GMT -6
Post by greykitty on Jul 12, 2021 13:01:43 GMT -6
Not only was that a tiny little Thor frog, but it was voiced by Chris Hemsworth in a new voiceover. I do love Marvel's attention to the smallest details at times. link
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Jul 14, 2021 9:42:22 GMT -6
Post by theseaword on Jul 14, 2021 9:42:22 GMT -6
Anyone watch the finale? Event wise, it was very close to my predictions (which is a good thing as that means they set up their season well). I thought the episode itself was poorly paced though, with the exposition dump. And I didn't love the villain so much as I felt it was a little lame that he just sits alone in that cartoony looking castle alone all the time. Loki described him as terrifying and I was very..."her?" over that. But yay to season 2!
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Jul 14, 2021 9:50:06 GMT -6
Post by theseaword on Jul 14, 2021 9:50:06 GMT -6
I think the episode would have been a lot stronger if he actually transported or showed Loki/Sylvie the alternate lives Miss Minutes tempted them with (Loki winning battle of NY). As it was framed in the episode, I already knew our Loki wasn't interested and could easily reject it. And it was a bit boring to have that thrown out at the beginning of the episode and then have them sit quietly and listen to the exposition dump. I'm sure it would be too expensive but it would have been so much cooler to give him everything he thought he wanted.
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Jul 14, 2021 19:29:29 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jul 14, 2021 19:29:29 GMT -6
So what universe did Loki end up in? And that was totally a nod at Kang.
I do not want to wait to see what happens. Ugh, a year at least to wait.
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Jul 14, 2021 19:29:57 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jul 14, 2021 19:29:57 GMT -6
Should I know who the big villain was? If I'd read the comics, I mean. I don't want to say why but this made me think of Library on Mount Char. Has anyone read it? (If you haven't just be aware it has about every trigger you can think of.) I think it's a version of Kang the Conquerer. ETA but not actually the Kang the Conqueror we'll see in Ant-Man. He's definitely less warlike than the villain from the comics. ETA2 DH checked imdb and the same actor is playing Kang... Take that as you will.
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Jul 14, 2021 20:03:54 GMT -6
Post by richard on Jul 14, 2021 20:03:54 GMT -6
So I'm excited for what the episode unlocks for future movies/seasons and that they actually brought in a new character that will live outside the series in the larger universe (as a variant I guess). But I found the episode itself boring to watch.
I felt little to no emotion with the whole Sylvie-Loki dynamic. The only thing that really elicited anything was when Mobius didn't recognize him because I like their buddy routine.
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Jul 14, 2021 20:09:47 GMT -6
Post by richard on Jul 14, 2021 20:09:47 GMT -6
Should I know who the big villain was? If I'd read the comics, I mean. I don't want to say why but this made me think of Library on Mount Char. Has anyone read it? (If you haven't just be aware it has about every trigger you can think of.) I think it's a version of Kang the Conquerer. ETA but not actually the Kang the Conqueror we'll see in Ant-Man. He's definitely less warlike than the villain from the comics. ETA2 DH checked imdb and the same actor is playing Kang... Take that as you will. I think this is part of the reason why the episode was boring to me - I recognized the actor right away. So I was like: oh, it's the Kang guy and clearly there's going to be a multiverse based on movie titles so he's going to die. And then they talked for 30 more minutes and he died. Lol.
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Jul 14, 2021 22:30:05 GMT -6
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Post by mrsnorris on Jul 14, 2021 22:30:05 GMT -6
Iām very excited for Kang in future projects and I thought the new actor was great buuuutt that was a pretty disappointing finale after last weekās chaotic amazingness.
Iāll definitely tune in for the next season in 2024 or whenever though.
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Jul 14, 2021 23:02:41 GMT -6
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Post by snowyowl on Jul 14, 2021 23:02:41 GMT -6
Me: had seen a lot of marvel movies, not an expert - totally bored. H: Comic nerd, watched every movie, read tons of comics, watches many of the deep dive YouTube videos - totally bored.
I loved episodes 1-5, thought it was really fun. Iām deeply annoyed by the āEve bites the appleā ending. I think they should have introduced Kang in some way, because listening to him give exposition for most of the episode was painful. He seems like a good actor, and I hope they do interesting things with his character. But sitting the two main characters down to listen to him talk for the whole finale didnāt work for me. Not to mention basically sidelining the three interesting TVA characters for most of episode.
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