richard
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Jun 23, 2021 18:38:09 GMT -6
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Post by richard on Jun 23, 2021 18:38:09 GMT -6
I also want Sylvie’s hair.
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Jun 23, 2021 19:25:43 GMT -6
Post by greykitty on Jun 23, 2021 19:25:43 GMT -6
I guess technically the Joe Russo cameo in Endgame was the first MCU openly gay character, right? I'd also read that Valkyrie was bi but there was no big screen time attached to it at that time.
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Jun 23, 2021 20:01:07 GMT -6
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Post by pianolove on Jun 23, 2021 20:01:07 GMT -6
I guess technically the Joe Russo cameo in Endgame was the first MCU openly gay character, right? I'd also read that Valkyrie was bi but there was no big screen time attached to it at that time. Ooo I forgot about this!! Lol when I keep saying I need to rewatch endgame 😂
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Jun 23, 2021 20:03:59 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jun 23, 2021 20:03:59 GMT -6
Hm. I am not amused by the cliffhanger, marvel. Interesting to learn that TVA agents were not, in fact, created by the timekeepers and are all variants? So at one point Mobius was a variant. Timekeepers are either nefarious or merciful, depending on how this plays out. I just love Tom hiddleston. What a treasure. Somehow he manages to nail the Loki persona every time. I'm not shocked by the variant revelation. The timekeepers are probably a bit of both. Nefarious with a hint of mercy. They've wiped all the memories from their various variants. I wonder how many Loki variants are in the TVA. Like there could be some he hasn't run into who thinks his name is Jeff or something. Hiddleston is a fantastic actor. Plus he's nice to look at. I was really hoping for a cutscene. I knew they wouldn't get away on the ship. If nothing else, than because it would cause a variation that the TVA would have to stop. Of course they are probably still busy with the mess Sylvie created last week. I can't believe we're already halfway through. I feel like there's no way they can tie it all up, but we will see.
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Jun 23, 2021 20:06:15 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jun 23, 2021 20:06:15 GMT -6
I also want Sylvie’s hair. Lol. My style is a lot like hers, just a little longer.
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Jun 23, 2021 20:07:52 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jun 23, 2021 20:07:52 GMT -6
It really hits me hard, going into these apocalypses. Like everyone around them will die. No question. I want to do something to save them.
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Jun 23, 2021 20:12:06 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jun 23, 2021 20:12:06 GMT -6
I did enjoy the chats between the two. Interesting to see the different personalities and specialties.
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Jun 23, 2021 20:52:14 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jun 23, 2021 20:52:14 GMT -6
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Jun 24, 2021 7:11:48 GMT -6
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Post by pianolove on Jun 24, 2021 7:11:48 GMT -6
Hm. I am not amused by the cliffhanger, marvel. Interesting to learn that TVA agents were not, in fact, created by the timekeepers and are all variants? So at one point Mobius was a variant. Timekeepers are either nefarious or merciful, depending on how this plays out. I just love Tom hiddleston. What a treasure. Somehow he manages to nail the Loki persona every time. I'm not shocked by the variant revelation. The timekeepers are probably a bit of both. Nefarious with a hint of mercy. They've wiped all the memories from their various variants. I wonder how many Loki variants are in the TVA. Like there could be some he hasn't run into who thinks his name is Jeff or something. Hiddleston is a fantastic actor. Plus he's nice to look at. I was really hoping for a cutscene. I knew they wouldn't get away on the ship. If nothing else, than because it would cause a variation that the TVA would have to stop. Of course they are probably still busy with the mess Sylvie created last week. I can't believe we're already halfway through. I feel like there's no way they can tie it all up, but we will see. Ha what if all the TVA agents are actually Loki variants that don’t remember they’re Loki 😂 Re the ship, while I was watching I really thought they’d pull it off (using that Hollywood trick where ten minutes is actually half an hour lol) and the TVA agents would show up to take them away thus solving the dead TemPad problem. And then ten minutes was actually ten minutes and they missed it and then it collapsed. Remember halfway through wandavision and we were all thinking the same about how they couldn’t possibly wrap it up lol.
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Post by RajahMD on Jun 24, 2021 9:42:12 GMT -6
I guess technically the Joe Russo cameo in Endgame was the first MCU openly gay character, right? I'd also read that Valkyrie was bi but there was no big screen time attached to it at that time. Ooh, I forgot about that one. This still feels big because it's the main character. But yeah, props for remembering that detail.
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Jun 24, 2021 10:16:26 GMT -6
Post by greykitty on Jun 24, 2021 10:16:26 GMT -6
I guess technically the Joe Russo cameo in Endgame was the first MCU openly gay character, right? I'd also read that Valkyrie was bi but there was no big screen time attached to it at that time. Ooh, I forgot about that one. This still feels big because it's the main character. But yeah, props for remembering that detail. No argument there about the Russo spot being a very minor reference. What I personally liked, though, was that in the scene itself it was just a part of life, and accepted as such. Which I would be happy to see in real life. I've read that the Eternals will have the first married gay couple (with kids, I think?).
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Jun 24, 2021 16:37:05 GMT -6
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Post by mrsnorris on Jun 24, 2021 16:37:05 GMT -6
Why do I love seeing my favorite characters be drunk so much? Asgardian singing drunk Loki with the figgy port was everything I never knew I wanted. And I love how exasperated Loki and Sylvie are with each other.
I’m going to be out of town for the next two episodes with no Disney+ access, it may actually kill me. On the plus side, I’ll basically be able to binge the last three in a row.
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Jun 27, 2021 10:00:41 GMT -6
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Post by willow on Jun 27, 2021 10:00:41 GMT -6
Wow that was an intense episode. Highly enjoyable though. I do admit that I don’t do well with apocalypse event television or movies because it gives me so much anxiety. I can do the post apocalyptic world stuff but not when it’s actually happening haha. It was so stressful seeing that end scene! I will be interested to see how they get out of it. I keep thinking their only way out is if Möbius figured out where they are and jumps in to grab them?
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Jun 27, 2021 11:01:47 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jun 27, 2021 11:01:47 GMT -6
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Jun 28, 2021 11:39:43 GMT -6
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Post by overboard on Jun 28, 2021 11:39:43 GMT -6
We caught up last night. I loved Hiddleston before Taylor swift, that knowledge has affected my crush a bit. Did I dream or make up that mobius turns out to be a bad guy? I’m thinking Loki and Sylvie will fall in love and then she will die.
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Jun 28, 2021 12:39:57 GMT -6
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Post by willow on Jun 28, 2021 12:39:57 GMT -6
We caught up last night. I loved Hiddleston before Taylor swift, that knowledge has affected my crush a bit. Did I dream or make up that mobius turns out to be a bad guy? I’m thinking Loki and Sylvie will fall in love and then she will die. I don’t know that he’s been shown to be bad yet? At least not in my memory. I think his motivations are loyalty to the TVA. After the revelation that everyone is a previous variant, that the conversation Loki has with him early on where Loki is questioning the reality of the TVA and Möbius is just like shruggy guy this is how it is…it made me curious how Mobius was beforehand and whether he would start to question his memories in this series or not after working with Loki. I imagine their memories are wiped and they only know their existence as working for the TVA. But do they not have memories of a childhood or anything then? Wouldn’t that strike them as off?
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Post by willow on Jun 28, 2021 16:04:11 GMT -6
I don’t know that he’s been shown to be bad yet? At least not in my memory. I think his motivations are loyalty to the TVA. After the revelation that everyone is a previous variant, that the conversation Loki has with him early on where Loki is questioning the reality of the TVA and Möbius is just like shruggy guy this is how it is…it made me curious how Mobius was beforehand and whether he would start to question his memories in this series or not after working with Loki. I imagine their memories are wiped and they only know their existence as working for the TVA. But do they not have memories of a childhood or anything then? Wouldn’t that strike them as off? I think when that agent they found was repeating "it's all real, it's all real" or whatever, that was her talking about whatever suppressed memories she has. I'm guessing they pop up here and there and the agents just think they're losing it/made up. But Sylvie must have broken through that veil for her. At least, that's my interpretation. Ohh good catch, I totally forgot about that. So maybe they are just suppressed memories instead of totally wiped? I would love to see a flashback (or forward since time is irrelevant to the TVA) that shows who mobius was before he was a TVA agent.
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Jun 30, 2021 11:53:50 GMT -6
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Post by pianolove on Jun 30, 2021 11:53:50 GMT -6
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh. I haaaaaaate cliffhangers!!!!!! My 6yo watched this one with me on accident and he was like “so, the guy and the girl are bad, but they’re good?” And I just thought he summed the lokis up nicely lol. Robot timekeepers, rogue variant TVA agents, and afterlife pruning. This episode had it all! I for one love the alligator Loki.
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Jun 30, 2021 11:58:28 GMT -6
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Post by pianolove on Jun 30, 2021 11:58:28 GMT -6
And like, poor mobius. He even said he might have had a jet ski
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Jun 30, 2021 18:36:16 GMT -6
Post by greykitty on Jun 30, 2021 18:36:16 GMT -6
Yes, I bet there will be plush alligator Loki's out for Christmas. I would like one. pianolove, I had the same feelings as your son. Oh, baby Sylvie - or baby lady Loki or whoever she is. Bad Ravonna (at least I think so?) - and I bet she remembers exactly what the nexus event was. Was that Avengers Tower at the very end? Every time someone says nexus event I expect to see Wanda and/or Dr. Strange. I feel so bad for B15 and C20. And Mobius. But - since Loki ended up somewhere/somewhen with some more Loki's, does that mean pruning isn't quite a final as it might seem?
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Jun 30, 2021 19:58:23 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jun 30, 2021 19:58:23 GMT -6
Yes, I bet there will be plush alligator Loki's out for Christmas. I would like one. pianolove , I had the same feelings as your son. Oh, baby Sylvie - or baby lady Loki or whoever she is. Bad Ravonna (at least I think so?) - and I bet she remembers exactly what the nexus event was. Was that Avengers Tower at the very end? Every time someone says nexus event I expect to see Wanda and/or Dr. Strange. I feel so bad for B15 and C20. And Mobius. But - since Loki ended up somewhere/somewhen with some more Loki's, does that mean pruning isn't quite a final as it might seem? I'm guessing they will be back somehow. Where exactly do the pruned variants go, if not into nonbeing? Also AHHHH WTF? Who are the Timekeepers. I totally thought they were acting weird and sort of mechanical before Sylvie beheaded that one. I like seeing it sort of break apart. I do wonder what happened to all the time bombs Sylvie set off. Like did they manage to contain all the events that easily? We didn't see much last week because we were focused primarily on Loki and Sylvie on Lemaris. So I was hoping it would be a bit more covered this week. I guess not. I wonder who B-15 and Mobius were before they were snatched up by the TVA. It was kind of amusing to watch Sif kick Loki in the balls like 10 times.
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Post by athn64 on Jun 30, 2021 19:59:09 GMT -6
I was worried they were going to end it when they were headed up the elevator, but that would have been easier to stomach for a week than this was.
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Jun 30, 2021 20:00:35 GMT -6
Post by athn64 on Jun 30, 2021 20:00:35 GMT -6
Also, why did Sylvie and Loki becoming friends create a Nexus event? I mean, a few more minutes and everyone would be dead (them included) so it really shouldn't have branched off like that. They were literally watching the world end around them.
I have many thoughts. So I may be back with more later.
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Jun 30, 2021 20:32:03 GMT -6
Post by richard on Jun 30, 2021 20:32:03 GMT -6
Also, why did Sylvie and Loki becoming friends create a Nexus event? I mean, a few more minutes and everyone would be dead (them included) so it really shouldn't have branched off like that. They were literally watching the world end around them. I have many thoughts. So I may be back with more later. I'm nervous that it means that their dying together is what ultimately breaks the timeline or something.
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Jun 30, 2021 20:32:29 GMT -6
Post by richard on Jun 30, 2021 20:32:29 GMT -6
I feel like there should always be a Porky Pig multiverse character. Or one voiced by Jake Johnson.
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Jun 30, 2021 20:34:14 GMT -6
Post by richard on Jun 30, 2021 20:34:14 GMT -6
I told DH when they were in front of the Timekeepers that it was like a Wizard of Oz thing before the reveal. Pats self on back.
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Post by greykitty on Jul 1, 2021 8:46:34 GMT -6
I liked this, and hope/wish this is the norm, even though I can imagine it adds several levels of difficulty to action costume design. Silvie's costume was designed to allow the actress to continue breast feeding her child: Loki star Sophia Di Martino has shared the ingenious ways in which her costume on the Marvel series was adapted to allow her to breastfeed. link
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Post by athn64 on Jul 1, 2021 11:26:06 GMT -6
The sigil behind the timekeepers has been bugging me for the past few hours. H pointed out it was similar to the Odal rune. Which is a bold choice, considering it was coopted by the SS in Nazi Germany. Their version did have wings so not completely the same.
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Post by greykitty on Jul 7, 2021 13:50:11 GMT -6
Oh, my.
I wouldn't trust Renslayer as far as I could throw her. I hope B19 scared her with the want versus need statement.
I've become a big Sylvie fan. Hope I'm not disappointed.
Such dramatic music - and I cried for classic Loki.
Assuming Young Loki lives - and joins Young Avengers?
I adore Alligator Loki.
Thanos copter!
Yay Mobius - I like you more now too.
Kind of expecting 'our' Loki's last words to be fulfilled somewhere along the line here in Phase 4 - I assure you brother, the sun will shine on us again.
Hard to believe there's one episode left.
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Post by richard on Jul 7, 2021 16:43:50 GMT -6
So was that a tiny Thor in a jar next to his hammer as they panned down to their hiding place in the void?
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