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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 23:35:15 GMT -6
Maybe Kate and Meghan have very different parenting styles and had no interest in discussing it with each other. I could see Meghan being very crunchy attachement and Kate being very old school Sure but I’m the outcast of H’s family and I’ve held all the babies, bottle fed them, fussed over them, asked mom how’s she’s doing etc etc. I think it’s really weird to be at an event together and have no interaction. Especially with Kate seeming to be really into kids. No cooing at your nephew, even? Just seems like a deeper rift than different parenting styles. Edited to change words
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Post by ArielMermaid on Apr 8, 2021 5:02:05 GMT -6
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Post by ArielMermaid on Apr 8, 2021 5:04:14 GMT -6
Meghan Markle and Harry had police called to their US mansion 9 times in 9 months Since Meghan Markle and Prince Harry moved in to their Montecito home with Archie in July last year, the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office has responded to calls listed as phone requests, alarm activations and property crimes www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/breaking-meghan-markle-harry-police-23875187
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Post by jaidit on Apr 8, 2021 5:04:48 GMT -6
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Post by emma on Apr 8, 2021 5:50:02 GMT -6
Maybe Kate and Meghan have very different parenting styles and had no interest in discussing it with each other. I could see Meghan being very crunchy attachement and Kate being very old school Sure but I’m the outcast of H’s family and I’ve held all the babies, bottle fed them, fussed over them, asked mom how’s she’s doing etc etc. I think it’s really weird to be at an event together and have no interaction. Especially with Kate seeming to be really into kids. No cooing at your nephew, even? Just seems like a deeper rift than different parenting styles. Edited to change words IDK, I’m not a baby cooer and am not holding your baby unless directly asked because you need to pee or something. Especially if I have my own kids to worry about. From what I remember of those photos they were seen sitting next to each other and talking ETA - i guess i find it odd that people believe unquestioningly everything Meghan said in that interview except that Kate is a good person and wasn't the problem.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 8, 2021 7:05:32 GMT -6
Wasn’t that before all the rumors of the bad blood between the brothers and the couples started coming out? When I was writing my post, I was actually thinking more about the polo match they were at together which I remember thinking was weird at the time because there were no pics of them looking chummy together or even interacting really. You’d think there’d be photos of Kate holding Archie or cooing over him in Meghan’s arms and pics of Meghan talking to the Cambridge kids or helping Kate entertain a toddler Louis but there was nothing like that. Kate had much more normal interactions like this with Zara and Autumn and their children. Now that we know Meghan had been hoping to befriend her, it’s kind of weird. I think it’s possible that, boiling it down to personalities only, that they just don’t mesh. Maybe Meghan didn’t have a bond with the toddler Cambridges. And by the time Archie was born they were already clearly on the outs. I get that everything is a photo op, but I think Kate had more normal interactions with Zara and Autumn and those kids because she has more normal relationships with them. Which is, of course, not to excuse anything perpetrated against Meghan. I can see this, but even myself and my SIL don't have the best relationships and don't talk outside of family events, but at family events we get along enough that if we were captured on film people wouldn't think we didn't like each other.
I do agree that they are completely different personalities and I can see them not hanging on a regular basis.
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Post by ouijabored on Apr 8, 2021 7:06:31 GMT -6
Maybe Kate and Meghan have very different parenting styles and had no interest in discussing it with each other. I could see Meghan being very crunchy attachement and Kate being very old school Sure but I’m the outcast of H’s family and I’ve held all the babies, bottle fed them, fussed over them, asked mom how’s she’s doing etc etc. I think it’s really weird to be at an event together and have no interaction. Especially with Kate seeming to be really into kids. No cooing at your nephew, even? Just seems like a deeper rift than different parenting styles. Edited to change words Yes this is weird to me too. There are sooo many photos of her gushing over strangers' kids and strangers' babies. She obviously really likes kids and feels comfortable with them. But there are no photos of her doing that with Archie. I don't think she is a bad person but I think there has to be something deeper going on between them besides "their personalities don't exactly mesh."
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Post by angelashly on Apr 8, 2021 7:10:01 GMT -6
Maybe Kate and Meghan have very different parenting styles and had no interest in discussing it with each other. I could see Meghan being very crunchy attachement and Kate being very old school Sure but I’m the outcast of H’s family and I’ve held all the babies, bottle fed them, fussed over them, asked mom how’s she’s doing etc etc. I think it’s really weird to be at an event together and have no interaction. Especially with Kate seeming to be really into kids. No cooing at your nephew, even? Just seems like a deeper rift than different parenting styles. Edited to change words Especially since we are told to believe that Kate is just the little old wife who can't speak out against the media she would just naturally stand by her and see the kids. I also can't believe that Harry was not close to those kids and therefore Meghan would be close enough that she would be interested.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 8, 2021 7:10:30 GMT -6
I can see this, but even myself and my SIL don't have the best relationships and don't talk outside of family events, but at family events we get along enough that if we were captured on film people wouldn't think we didn't like each other.
I do agree that they are completely different personalities and I can see them not hanging on a regular basis.
Oh and see, I have in-laws that I see regularly where film would clearly indicate that they do not have a close casual relationship with me or my children, so I’m probably projecting. Oh I can see that too, but with my own mom so you are right
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Post by angelashly on Apr 8, 2021 7:13:38 GMT -6
Sure but I’m the outcast of H’s family and I’ve held all the babies, bottle fed them, fussed over them, asked mom how’s she’s doing etc etc. I think it’s really weird to be at an event together and have no interaction. Especially with Kate seeming to be really into kids. No cooing at your nephew, even? Just seems like a deeper rift than different parenting styles. Edited to change words IDK, I’m not a baby cooer and am not holding your baby unless directly asked because you need to pee or something. Especially if I have my own kids to worry about. From what I remember of those photos they were seen sitting next to each other and talking ETA - i guess i find it odd that people believe unquestioningly everything Meghan said in that interview except that Kate is a good person and wasn't the problem. For the record I believe Kate is a good person. I don't believe that she gets a pass of being not involved everyone wants me to believe.
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Post by emma on Apr 8, 2021 8:11:46 GMT -6
IDK, I’m not a baby cooer and am not holding your baby unless directly asked because you need to pee or something. Especially if I have my own kids to worry about. From what I remember of those photos they were seen sitting next to each other and talking ETA - i guess i find it odd that people believe unquestioningly everything Meghan said in that interview except that Kate is a good person and wasn't the problem. For the record I believe Kate is a good person. I don't believe that she gets a pass of being not involved everyone wants me to believe. I think you know i'm no Kate fan and she's at least complacent in everything that went down. But i just find it weird to point fingers and say she's clearly a terrible person because she didn't gush over a baby at a public event where she had her own young children to watch. She gushes over strangers kids because it's her job to. There are just so many things we don't know so judging people on a set of long distance photos is odd, like maybe they met up the day before and Kate gushed then, maybe she offered to hold Archie and Meghan declined because it meant she'd have to chase after Louis, maybe Meghan was understandably protective over Archie and didn't want anyone else holding him... maybe maybe maybe I'm probably also projecting because i have a good relationship with my sister and love my nephew but i think there's 1 picture in existence of me holding him. And i've never met my SIL 2 kids (thanks to covid) and i've never once felt the need to discuss parenting with her but she's a lovely person who i've gone on multiple vacations with.
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Post by claudia on Apr 8, 2021 8:42:42 GMT -6
I think at that event Meghan was shielding Archie's face from view. She also was standing in the shade while Kate and Zara were more in the sun. That might have also limited the opportunities for him being held by others, etc. Archie was just so young at the time. There was speculation at the time that they were at that event to detract from whatever had just gone on with Andrew (Epstein's death? Andrew's interview? I can't remember now).
Basically, I think I'm saying, I don't think the polo match reveals as much as something like the Commonwealth service.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 8, 2021 8:43:44 GMT -6
Again I am not saying that Kate is horrible because of this exact thing. I don't think she is horrible.
Where I am coming from is for the last several weeks we have heard that Kate couldn't speak out to the press against the racism and rumors that she hated Meghan and vice versa because she isn't stupid and isn't allowed and I was saying IF she wanted to speak up she could have done it in these subtle ways.
I do not think she is horrible because she didn't.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 8, 2021 8:44:47 GMT -6
I think at that event Meghan was shielding Archie's face from view. She also was standing in the shade while Kate and Zara were more in the sun. That might have also limited the opportunities for him being held by others, etc. Archie was just so young at the time. There was speculation at the time that they were at that event to detract from whatever had just gone on with Andrew (Epstein's death? Andrew's interview? I can't remember now). Basically, I think I'm saying, I don't think the polo match reveals as much as something like the Commonwealth service. Exactly.
Also Meghan took so much back lash at that event for how she was holding Archie that I have blocked a lot of it out.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 8, 2021 8:46:42 GMT -6
Louis talking to Meghan
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Post by claudia on Apr 8, 2021 8:49:25 GMT -6
Again I am not saying that Kate is horrible because of this exact thing. I don't think she is horrible. Where I am coming from is for the last several weeks we have heard that Kate couldn't speak out to the press against the racism and rumors that she hated Meghan and vice versa because she isn't stupid and isn't allowed and I was saying IF she wanted to speak up she could have done it in these subtle ways. I do not think she is horrible because she didn't. I think that kind of echoes what Meghan said. She said Kate is a good person but when Oprah asked why Kate didn't correct the record, she said she doesn't know and would have wanted it corrected if she were Kate. So she seemed to be confirming that Kate didn't try to correct the record.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 8, 2021 9:08:24 GMT -6
George and Meghan
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Post by angelashly on Apr 8, 2021 9:10:20 GMT -6
I do think that they liked each other enough to talk at functions because while Wimbledon was work in a sense they genuinely seemed to like talking to each other there
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Post by angelashly on Apr 8, 2021 9:11:53 GMT -6
Again I am not saying that Kate is horrible because of this exact thing. I don't think she is horrible. Where I am coming from is for the last several weeks we have heard that Kate couldn't speak out to the press against the racism and rumors that she hated Meghan and vice versa because she isn't stupid and isn't allowed and I was saying IF she wanted to speak up she could have done it in these subtle ways. I do not think she is horrible because she didn't. I think that kind of echoes what Meghan said. She said Kate is a good person but when Oprah asked why Kate didn't correct the record, she said she doesn't know and would have wanted it corrected if she were Kate. So she seemed to be confirming that Kate didn't try to correct the record. Agree which is where I am coming from.
And now I feel like I did before where I have to go out of my way to remind people I never hated Kate and say something nice about her so people don't think that and I don't want to be that person
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Post by Cheshie6 on Apr 8, 2021 9:35:31 GMT -6
I think at that event Meghan was shielding Archie's face from view. She also was standing in the shade while Kate and Zara were more in the sun. That might have also limited the opportunities for him being held by others, etc. Archie was just so young at the time. There was speculation at the time that they were at that event to detract from whatever had just gone on with Andrew (Epstein's death? Andrew's interview? I can't remember now). Basically, I think I'm saying, I don't think the polo match reveals as much as something like the Commonwealth service. My tin hat thinking is there are pictures with them interacting, and nobody wants to release them because that would ruin the current narrative. If there's photos of Kate holding Archie, and Meghan running around chasing Louis, the Kate-stans and media would be doing mental decathlons to justify it. Instead, they picked a brief moment when each were keeping to themselves. There were a few photos where Louis was interacting with Meghan/Archie, Kate was smiling while looking on. I bet there was more to that but I can't find more.
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Post by ouijabored on Apr 8, 2021 10:23:25 GMT -6
I think at that event Meghan was shielding Archie's face from view. She also was standing in the shade while Kate and Zara were more in the sun. That might have also limited the opportunities for him being held by others, etc. Archie was just so young at the time. There was speculation at the time that they were at that event to detract from whatever had just gone on with Andrew (Epstein's death? Andrew's interview? I can't remember now). Basically, I think I'm saying, I don't think the polo match reveals as much as something like the Commonwealth service. My tin hat thinking is there are pictures with them interacting, and nobody wants to release them because that would ruin the current narrative. If there's photos of Kate holding Archie, and Meghan running around chasing Louis, the Kate-stans and media would be doing mental decathlons to justify it. Instead, they picked a brief moment when each were keeping to themselves. There were a few photos where Louis was interacting with Meghan/Archie, Kate was smiling while looking on. I bet there was more to that but I can't find more. This is a good point. Maybe they are fine with each other and this idea that they don't get along is just manipulation by the media 🤷 I think I'm probably just projecting how I'd think I'd feel in Meghan's shoes (which is hurt and disappointed if my SIL, who is routinely considered the nicest person in that family and who had been through something similar, didn't try to help me if I were being attacked by the media every day) but Meghan is probably less petty than I am and more forgiving, lol.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Apr 8, 2021 10:56:20 GMT -6
And Louis was so active that day. He was all over the place. It would have been pretty hard to be too interactive with anyone. If I were Meghan I wouldn’t have let anyone have Archie, if just for the fact I wouldn’t want to chase Louis.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 11:42:07 GMT -6
If watching Serena at Wimbledon is work, sign me up.
Re the polo match, you know who else didn’t hold Archie? Everyone, including Harry. According to the pictures that were published, of course.
Anyway, still have my fingers crossed for Centre Court seats 2023.
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Post by jaidit on Apr 8, 2021 12:06:09 GMT -6
I think it’s possible that, in the beginning, Kate was nice to Meghan’s face and gossiped behind her back.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 12:14:45 GMT -6
Sure but I’m the outcast of H’s family and I’ve held all the babies, bottle fed them, fussed over them, asked mom how’s she’s doing etc etc. I think it’s really weird to be at an event together and have no interaction. Especially with Kate seeming to be really into kids. No cooing at your nephew, even? Just seems like a deeper rift than different parenting styles. Edited to change words IDK, I’m not a baby cooer and am not holding your baby unless directly asked because you need to pee or something. Especially if I have my own kids to worry about. From what I remember of those photos they were seen sitting next to each other and talking ETA - i guess i find it odd that people believe unquestioningly everything Meghan said in that interview except that Kate is a good person and wasn't the problem. What? That’s not what people are saying? That’s not what I said? I said it looked like there was a bigger rift than personalities clashing. But seeing the follow up photos I think maybe it was more media spin than anything else.
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Post by Bookshelves on Apr 8, 2021 12:14:52 GMT -6
I think it’s possible that, in the beginning, Kate was nice to Meghan’s face and gossiped behind her back. Are u you the one who knows some tea, or am I thinking of Taitai? Spill it...
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Post by angelashly on Apr 8, 2021 12:21:06 GMT -6
If watching Serena at Wimbledon is work, sign me up. Re the polo match, you know who else didn’t hold Archie? Everyone, including Harry. According to the pictures that were published, of course. Anyway, still have my fingers crossed for Centre Court seats 2023. Kate is a patron of Wimbledon no? So yes work
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Post by richard on Apr 8, 2021 12:32:55 GMT -6
Louis talking to Meghan I too talk to children at events where I don't want to talk to the adults.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 8, 2021 12:40:12 GMT -6
Louis talking to Meghan I too talk to children at events where I don't want to talk to the adults. The amount of times I've used my kid/and or other kids to be a buffer for my introverted self is not small
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Post by richard on Apr 8, 2021 12:42:19 GMT -6
I too talk to children at events where I don't want to talk to the adults. The amount of times I've used my kid/and or other kids to be a buffer for my introverted self is not small We are the same.
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