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Post by imapenguin on Apr 1, 2021 15:28:38 GMT -6
So was there no 9:30 press release or whatever? You didn't see it? They confirmed that Philip died 10 years ago, Charles abdicated to go live with squirrels and Andrew turned himself in. Dreams do come true!
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Post by Peekaru on Apr 1, 2021 15:30:47 GMT -6
Harry playing with his dog on the beach. Do we think it’s random paparazzi photos or they tipped them off? Aren't they in LA? Aren't random paparazzi everywhere anyway? And why are they looking at his foot? Who is this other person? What is happening? This particular area of the CA coastline tends to have a lot of tar. I suspect that he’s with security looking at a blob on his foot. source: have looked at my own foot like that when I realized I had a huge blob of tar on it.
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Post by Cheshie6 on Apr 1, 2021 15:40:06 GMT -6
So, I don't think Meghan and Kate fell out over the tights. I think it caused an issue in the moment and than Kate apologized and Meghan moved on. By all accounts, she is far more forgiving then she should be. I don't think she held a grudge over the actual incident. Meghan has stated herself that she was upset that they wouldn't correct the record and threw her under the bus to provide cover when the fake story came out 6 months later. If she has any issue with Kate personally (and she hasn't said she does), I would imagine as a non-white woman myself that it stems from a deep disappointment in Kate not having her back on the issues of race and the horrible treatment she faced in the press. Once Archie was born, I can see her deciding that her kids come first and people who won't protect him are not worth her effort or time. This is all conjecture on my part, but it is based on how I navigate a white dominant world. This. I've had to do this with my in-laws. I liked my SILs and BIL okay for the most part, but they rely so heavily on their parents, they are afraid to get into it for fear they'd lose their support. Kate was probably in the same boat, especially if her husband didn't see a problem with it. Not okay but it is what it is.
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Post by teraiin on Apr 1, 2021 16:57:15 GMT -6
You didn't see it? They confirmed that Philip died 10 years ago, Charles abdicated to go live with squirrels and Andrew turned himself in. Dreams do come true! This made me LOL
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Post by addymac on Apr 1, 2021 19:14:02 GMT -6
Huh. To me that last pic is Harry noticing them and starting to give a stink eye. But whatever. If they did call them I don’t even care. Show your royal family how nice life is at the beach in March with your dog.
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Post by beesquared on Apr 1, 2021 19:20:47 GMT -6
Huh. To me that last pic is Harry noticing them and starting to give a stink eye. But whatever. If they did call them I don’t even care. Show your royal family how nice life is at the beach in March with your dog. Seriously- the “Harry is so miserable” narrative is really hard to believe while watching him frolic on the beach with his dog.
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Post by claudia on Apr 1, 2021 19:58:46 GMT -6
Harry is such a prisoner. Meghan has clearly ruined his life.
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Post by Cheshie6 on Apr 2, 2021 7:14:20 GMT -6
On the article I keep going back and forth. Yes I agree that it does not have to be Kate vs Meghan in the sense that you can like both. In reality I do. I like Meghan more because I like her stances on things, I relate more to her (if that is even possible with the rich and Royal) and I still think Kate is in deeper than many others feel. On the other hand I hate the Meghan fans are louder. Yes we are we have to be because most of the hate towards her isn't rational hate. I have complicated opinions as well. I think at first, the media pushed the Fab Four narrative. We got the friends narrative when Kate and Meghan went to Wimbledon, etc. What caused the shift? Was it the relational shift that caused the narrative shift? Was it the constant leaks that caused the shift? The number of articles that went out of their way to smear Meghan when she wasn't even part of the story are highly suspect. I remember one in particular that was rumored to come straight from Prince William. The article was denying the affair and then out of nowhere, the article's source started slamming Meghan. I think when you're a fan of Meghan and you keep seeing William and Kate benefitting (and it looks like causing) Meghan's negative press, you're going to like them less. I also think you have to be blind/willfully ignoring that many of Meghan's haters go out of their way to prop Kate up. Things she was criticized for for years are now treated like the ideal. I tend to think the breakdown on the personal side led to the leaks which led to the factions, for lack of a better word, but it could be that the intense fandoms led to the stories which led to the breakdown. Or a combination of things resulting in a perfect storm. I'm very conflicted. For one, I loved Kate early on. I had high, and obviously wrong expectations for her. When she, and Will's got engaged, she was being lauded for being the future most educated Queen. I guess, I thought she'd come in the way Meghan did. She'd been with Wills on and off, for 10 years! I assumed she'd come in already knowing, ready to work, and make the big changes. Instead they stepped back, she got lessons, seemed shy, couldn't make a speech without a piece of paper, seemed to only be a pretty thing on Wills' arm. I am okay with her stepping back during the time she was pregnant, and trying for the heir and spare. But in hindsight, I struggle! The fact that Harry said in an interview, he hopes the media would take a break from her while she's pregnant, but Wills couldn't reciprocate, is very upsetting. The fact that Harry easily embraced her, obviously welcomed her into the family with open arms, and they couldn't even muster sounding excited for Harry to have found his someone, is heartbreaking. Kate is slightly younger than me (3 days), and I struggle with her having this platform, and not using it to the best of her ability. (I'd challenge anyone who says this is her best, she hunted a prince, took a gap year, changed colleges because he didn't go to the one they originally thought he would, traipsed across the world to be in his line of sight, and wore a sheer skirt as a dress, and waited... to be the future queen of England) I was a fan of Meghan before, from the show, from Hallmark. Someone who looks me was the main love interest! My mama always said they'd never let a mixed baby like me in the Royal family because of the "one drop rule," so seeing her with that crown, in that venue, was just 😍😍😍! She came in interested in doing work, ready to hit the ground running, she knew what type of work she wanted to get done with this platform. This also meshes well with my personality. That's where I feel the shift started! That's when the comparisons started. That's when Kate-stans started to say things like, "she's faking, because she's an actress!" "She's breaking protocols." All her charities and are "in" charities, so she's only doing this for the likes. And my personal favorite, "Doesn't she know she's not going to be the queen?" I feel like she saw this as an opportunity to have a huge platform for things she cares about (Women, animals, etc.) and was going to use it to fullness of her ability. The fact that she used her clothes to be a voice. She knew her clothing would be picked apart, and she dressed with her platforms in mind. If she does that naturally, awesome! If she was cognizant of it, even more awesome. I agree with angelashly that I've felt pressured to not say anything if it was criticism of Kate, because of course I must hate Kate. I love Kate's casual looks, I do tire of her themed dressing. I tire of the same coat dress in 75 billion colors. (It's what my mom and abuelita wore to church, she just needs gloves and a matching hat! Yay for old school black southern baptist ladies. So to me, she was a white lady dressing like a black lady going to church on Sunday morning) I don't love everything Meghan wore, but I loved that she took risks. But I wonder how many of those mishaps was her trying to keep her style, and fit into this new world. We saw her IDGAF tour because "we out after this" and she was fire! Another issue is hair. The praise we gave Kate's hair, and the criticism of Meghans always bothered me. I don't care whether she keratin straightens it, or however she gets it straight, her texture is completely different. I don't know her hair, but curly is the same curl as mine, and when my hair is straight you can't hold that in anything! Curly... I can hold it up with a pencil, a chop stick, etc. Straight... nothing. My prom hair was down after being in a french twist with a 1000 bobby pins after 2 hours. You can do to my hair what they did to Kates. Black hair is a popular issue in Hollywood right now. Most actresses had to do their own or get it done before being on set. But it's the comparisons and how Kate's seemed mostly beautiful and wonderful, and Meghan's was messy. This is a rant, sorry. It probably doesn't make sense but it's Holy week, and I'm not sure I'll have a mom too much longer so I'm sorry if it doesn't make sense, but I wanted to comment.
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Post by miawallace on Apr 2, 2021 8:39:07 GMT -6
Harry is such a prisoner. Meghan has clearly ruined his life. I want to be imprisoned with a dog - it sounds like torture.
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Post by beesquared on Apr 2, 2021 11:04:33 GMT -6
Hanging out on the bench with Cheshie6 today. Nodding along to everything you are saying and grateful you are in this thread.
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Post by beesquared on Apr 2, 2021 11:12:01 GMT -6
And just in case it needs saying- there are lots of posters here fighting the good fight and bringing awareness. We all come into this with bias and things to learn. The last few weeks have been really tough on top of a especially challenging year for my community. We can’t change things we don’t talk about and the reality is that race is a factor in everything. This doesn’t have to be a bad thing. We can celebrate the differences and appreciate how rich life can be.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 2, 2021 11:40:11 GMT -6
Cheshie6, I could post pictures of dd's hair that we straightened for our wedding before and after and all the curls out. Her hair is very similar to Meghan's.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 2, 2021 13:41:40 GMT -6
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Post by jaidit on Apr 2, 2021 15:08:43 GMT -6
New photos of the queen and Charles at frogmore House
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Post by beesquared on Apr 2, 2021 15:29:34 GMT -6
The grounds at Frogmore are so picturesque! It’s beautiful in all it’s spring glory.
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Post by imapenguin on Apr 2, 2021 19:39:04 GMT -6
This comparison made me lol
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Post by STP on Apr 2, 2021 20:39:42 GMT -6
That coat is dumb, why is she dressed like a regency era footman?
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Post by STP on Apr 2, 2021 20:45:27 GMT -6
So, I don't think Meghan and Kate fell out over the tights. I think it caused an issue in the moment and than Kate apologized and Meghan moved on. By all accounts, she is far more forgiving then she should be. I don't think she held a grudge over the actual incident. Meghan has stated herself that she was upset that they wouldn't correct the record and threw her under the bus to provide cover when the fake story came out 6 months later. If she has any issue with Kate personally (and she hasn't said she does), I would imagine as a non-white woman myself that it stems from a deep disappointment in Kate not having her back on the issues of race and the horrible treatment she faced in the press. Once Archie was born, I can see her deciding that her kids come first and people who won't protect him are not worth her effort or time. This is all conjecture on my part, but it is based on how I navigate a white dominant world. She flat out said Kate is a “good person,” she was just disappointed in the narrative. It’s “funny” how the media is still like “what could the issue BE?!” She just told you?
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Post by mathlete on Apr 3, 2021 0:18:29 GMT -6
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Post by mb3 on Apr 3, 2021 0:28:07 GMT -6
New photos of the queen and Charles at frogmore House They look like they’re the same age.
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Post by mb3 on Apr 3, 2021 0:30:21 GMT -6
I feel like this could be side by side with the families of the Danish Royals painting eggs. The Danish photos would be labeled “what I envision” and this would be “what really happened”.
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Post by Bookshelves on Apr 3, 2021 9:50:37 GMT -6
That coat is dumb, why is she dressed like a regency era footman? Can you imagine the closets and attics in that palace? Maybe it actually *did* belong to a regency footman!
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Post by angelashly on Apr 3, 2021 10:22:13 GMT -6
So, I don't think Meghan and Kate fell out over the tights. I think it caused an issue in the moment and than Kate apologized and Meghan moved on. By all accounts, she is far more forgiving then she should be. I don't think she held a grudge over the actual incident. Meghan has stated herself that she was upset that they wouldn't correct the record and threw her under the bus to provide cover when the fake story came out 6 months later. If she has any issue with Kate personally (and she hasn't said she does), I would imagine as a non-white woman myself that it stems from a deep disappointment in Kate not having her back on the issues of race and the horrible treatment she faced in the press. Once Archie was born, I can see her deciding that her kids come first and people who won't protect him are not worth her effort or time. This is all conjecture on my part, but it is based on how I navigate a white dominant world. She flat out said Kate is a “good person,” she was just disappointed in the narrative. It’s “funny” how the media is still like “what could the issue BE?!” She just told you? For ME it isn’t just the narrative it’s what is behind the narrative not being changed. Everyone says Kate can’t speak up and that’s fine she doesn’t have to but FOR ME I will look at you different and you forever will be on my I see you list no matter how nice you are for not saying something or standing up to the racism and gaining from it as well. As for the media yes I agree with you
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Post by angelashly on Apr 3, 2021 10:28:02 GMT -6
It’s the same with Meghan saying she couldn’t go out without permission and all the media outlets now are talking about Morton saying she was seen out and about.
No shit she told you when she got permission she could leave
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Post by tinyjoys on Apr 3, 2021 11:12:46 GMT -6
That coat is dumb, why is she dressed like a regency era footman? Can you imagine the closets and attics in that palace? Maybe it actually *did* belong to a regency footman! Not going to lie, I almost want to see the closets & attic treasures more than the jewels.
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Post by STP on Apr 3, 2021 14:11:50 GMT -6
She flat out said Kate is a “good person,” she was just disappointed in the narrative. It’s “funny” how the media is still like “what could the issue BE?!” She just told you? For ME it isn’t just the narrative it’s what is behind the narrative not being changed. Everyone says Kate can’t speak up and that’s fine she doesn’t have to but FOR ME I will look at you different and you forever will be on my I see you list no matter how nice you are for not saying something or standing up to the racism and gaining from it as well. As for the media yes I agree with you I think you misunderstood what I was speaking to. I was repeating what Meghan said, verbatim. She literally uttered those words. So it's strange that people are acting confused like "why won't she say what the problem is, and how she feels about Kate" when she did both. Out loud and in her full voice. The acting confused is so funny to me when the woman has spoken on it, clearly, so there shouldn't really be any surface level confusion even.
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Post by Radley on Apr 3, 2021 20:00:48 GMT -6
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Post by pitchslap on Apr 3, 2021 21:31:13 GMT -6
House arrest in a palace?? That sounds amazing.
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Post by pitchslap on Apr 3, 2021 21:32:56 GMT -6
Is the phrase "unseat the King" a nicer way to say kill him or did I miss something?
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Post by pitchslap on Apr 3, 2021 21:35:12 GMT -6
Never have I ever worn a white shirt during a kids painting activity. Then again, I don't have her budget.
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