Jesslfar
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Post by Jesslfar on Mar 7, 2021 12:07:18 GMT -6
That's how I thought it went down #2. #1 doesn't seem as justified unless they get into a similar story. {Spoiler} Husband #1's comments about how pretty the baby were and how willing he was to watch her made me wonder if we don't find out she killed both because they were trying something with Ginny. Have you finished? Here are my thoughts on #1 just in case he seemed a bit controlling. After she married him to get custody he tried to leave the apartment (hotel room?) And he basically told her to sit down and watch LotR with her or he was going to call the social services lady back. I think she did it to escape him. I did. {Spoiler} Killing him just for keeping her in for a few days seemed a bit much if we are supposed to like her character, which was why I thought there might be more back story.
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Post by jubilantsquirrel on Mar 7, 2021 12:46:31 GMT -6
Have you finished? Here are my thoughts on #1 just in case he seemed a bit controlling. After she married him to get custody he tried to leave the apartment (hotel room?) And he basically told her to sit down and watch LotR with her or he was going to call the social services lady back. I think she did it to escape him. I did. {Spoiler} Killing him just for keeping her in for a few days seemed a bit much if we are supposed to like her character, which was why I thought there might be more back story. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if there is more to that story. And he gave off a creepy vibe the first time we saw him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 12:52:19 GMT -6
I did. {Spoiler} Killing him just for keeping her in for a few days seemed a bit much if we are supposed to like her character, which was why I thought there might be more back story. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if there is more to that story. And he gave off a creepy vibe the first time we saw him. He was definitely creepy. Wasn't she 17 when she married him? I thought DSS person said she was 17. And he was definitely 30s to 40s.
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Post by jubilantsquirrel on Mar 7, 2021 13:03:13 GMT -6
I definitely wouldn't be surprised if there is more to that story. And he gave off a creepy vibe the first time we saw him. He was definitely creepy. Wasn't she 17 when she married him? I thought DSS person said she was 17. And he was definitely 30s to 40s. 17 sounds about right. She used him to get her daughter back and I think was hoping she could just quietly sneak away. I'm sure there's more to that story and his predatory behavior.
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Post by bustedbiscuits on Mar 10, 2021 19:57:37 GMT -6
I finished it and I really liked it overall. It was interesting to see the reasons behind why Georgia did what she did but I did think it was odd she kept the plant around after she used it to kill her last husband. I do like how she's motivated and I hope she does find happiness with the mayor.
I feel so sad for Ginny especially near the end when all her friends turned on her. Max is selfish and makes everything about her. I was hoping Ginny would end up with Marcus but felt like she was going for Hunter because of her friend's pressures that he's a "good boyfriend/good person/good guy" and trying to find a relationship different from what she's watched growing up.
I wonder if Austin's father is going to come into season 2? I'm curious about that storyline and it was so heartbreaking to see him crushed when he found the letters. I also feel like Austin too. My mom tried to 'toughen' me up but I just couldn't. Standing up for myself was difficult, so was confrontation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 6:06:12 GMT -6
I finished it and I really liked it overall. It was interesting to see the reasons behind why Georgia did what she did but I did think it was odd she kept the plant around after she used it to kill her last husband. I do like how she's motivated and I hope she does find happiness with the mayor.
I feel so sad for Ginny especially near the end when all her friends turned on her. Max is selfish and makes everything about her. I was hoping Ginny would end up with Marcus but felt like she was going for Hunter because of her friend's pressures that he's a "good boyfriend/good person/good guy" and trying to find a relationship different from what she's watched growing up.
I wonder if Austin's father is going to come into season 2? I'm curious about that storyline and it was so heartbreaking to see him crushed when he found the letters. I also feel like Austin too. My mom tried to 'toughen' me up but I just couldn't. Standing up for myself was difficult, so was confrontation.
Spoilers I really didn't like the ending. The whole running away trope didn't make sense after everything they talked about. Also... I like the mayor but she needs to be with Joe.
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Post by iruntodrink on Mar 12, 2021 11:32:35 GMT -6
Did anyone else get dark-haired Alicia Silverstone/Cher vibes from Max? I actually loved her character, she was my favorite. Probably because she was me in HS 🤣 very much the drama queen who always wanted to be center of attention. (I was voted Class Clown and Best Sense of Humor :hair flip:)
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Post by iruntodrink on Mar 12, 2021 11:33:11 GMT -6
He was definitely creepy. Wasn't she 17 when she married him? I thought DSS person said she was 17. And he was definitely 30s to 40s. 17 sounds about right. She used him to get her daughter back and I think was hoping she could just quietly sneak away. I'm sure there's more to that story and his predatory behavior. All this. Absolute predator.
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inthekitty
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Post by inthekitty on Apr 1, 2021 10:33:30 GMT -6
I know I'm a million years late, but here are my many random thoughts and spoilers.
It got way too heavy with the drama as it kept going. Not enough likable characters. The mother-and-daughter relationship issues and the whole teen drama was plenty--the Forensic Files/Snapped angle just makes for a hot mess of plot holes that didn't fit well with the rest of it.
Dead husband 1: I DGAF that Georgia did him in. He had the full on quid pro quo creeper thing going and he can fuck right off as he clearly felt he owned wifey and probably raped her. Georgia was 17 with a kid and no money or reliable supports so I can see how she'd go the route she did. However, unless they address it next season, a major plot hole is how she moved the body. No way she could move that guy by herself, and if she knows someone who would help her cover a murder they could have helped her leave.
Dead husband 2: This one is more wonky to me. All we see is an uncomfortable touch that may have been yoga instructor getting too personal rather than sexual. If we're supposed to believe this is a trauma response we should have seen her react right away (like some set up where she pushes him and he hits his head or something). Doesn't make much sense if she thinks he's a threat to her daughter why did she research random poisonous plants, take up botany, then casually mix a smoothie rather than get the hell out right away. At this point in time she was much more mature, established, and powerful. You can't tell me that she didn't have a plan where she could have left him and not been poor (blackmailing him for something or some way around a pre-nup if there was one). And yep, why did she take the plant with her?
Ginny and Austin taking off on the motorcycle just made me eye roll.
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Post by claudia on Apr 1, 2021 12:44:09 GMT -6
I totally agree. The only likable characters by the end were also completely boring.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 15:31:51 GMT -6
I know I'm a million years late, but here are my many random thoughts and spoilers. It got way too heavy with the drama as it kept going. Not enough likable characters. The mother-and-daughter relationship issues and the whole teen drama was plenty--the Forensic Files/Snapped angle just makes for a hot mess of plot holes that didn't fit well with the rest of it. Dead husband 1: I DGAF that Georgia did him in. He had the full on quid pro quo creeper thing going and he can fuck right off as he clearly felt he owned wifey and probably raped her. Georgia was 17 with a kid and no money or reliable supports so I can see how she'd go the route she did. However, unless they address it next season, a major plot hole is how she moved the body. No way she could move that guy by herself, and if she knows someone who would help her cover a murder they could have helped her leave. Dead husband 2: This one is more wonky to me. All we see is an uncomfortable touch that may have been yoga instructor getting too personal rather than sexual. If we're supposed to believe this is a trauma response we should have seen her react right away (like some set up where she pushes him and he hits his head or something). Doesn't make much sense if she thinks he's a threat to her daughter why did she research random poisonous plants, take up botany, then casually mix a smoothie rather than get the hell out right away. At this point in time she was much more mature, established, and powerful. You can't tell me that she didn't have a plan where she could have left him and not been poor (blackmailing him for something or some way around a pre-nup if there was one). And yep, why did she take the plant with her? Ginny and Austin taking off on the motorcycle just made me eye roll. 1. I don't think she moved the body. I think she called 911 and claimed he had a heart attack 2. She already had the plant was my understanding. I thought there was a very short time frame between touching and killing. And even if she was older, she most likely did not learn valuable coping skills with the life she had leading up to that point.
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Post by klong11 on Apr 1, 2021 15:45:00 GMT -6
Body #1: guy is missing. Body #2: said he had a heart attack, then had someone dig up the body, cremate and insert ashes into fireworks.
She was on the phone in the episode where they found the coffin empty with someone (I think she called him Martin) and said "I need you to do what you did in New Orleans again. So whoever she is talking to on the phone helped to dispose of body #1.
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Post by Jesslfar on Apr 1, 2021 16:01:55 GMT -6
Body #1: guy is missing. Body #2: said he had a heart attack, then had someone dig up the body, cremate and insert ashes into fireworks. She was on the phone in the episode where they found the coffin empty with someone (I think she called him Martin) and said "I need you to do what you did in New Orleans again. So whoever she is talking to on the phone helped to dispose of body #1. I agree on this, I also can't figure out how she has these biker friends who can help her get rid of bodies and dig up a body without anyone knowing but who also couldn't have helped her disappear when Husband #1 became a problem, I would think her running away from husband would be easier than him going missing. It seems like a big plot hole.
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Post by inthekitty on Apr 1, 2021 16:26:32 GMT -6
I know I'm a million years late, but here are my many random thoughts and spoilers. It got way too heavy with the drama as it kept going. Not enough likable characters. The mother-and-daughter relationship issues and the whole teen drama was plenty--the Forensic Files/Snapped angle just makes for a hot mess of plot holes that didn't fit well with the rest of it. Dead husband 1: I DGAF that Georgia did him in. He had the full on quid pro quo creeper thing going and he can fuck right off as he clearly felt he owned wifey and probably raped her. Georgia was 17 with a kid and no money or reliable supports so I can see how she'd go the route she did. However, unless they address it next season, a major plot hole is how she moved the body. No way she could move that guy by herself, and if she knows someone who would help her cover a murder they could have helped her leave. Dead husband 2: This one is more wonky to me. All we see is an uncomfortable touch that may have been yoga instructor getting too personal rather than sexual. If we're supposed to believe this is a trauma response we should have seen her react right away (like some set up where she pushes him and he hits his head or something). Doesn't make much sense if she thinks he's a threat to her daughter why did she research random poisonous plants, take up botany, then casually mix a smoothie rather than get the hell out right away. At this point in time she was much more mature, established, and powerful. You can't tell me that she didn't have a plan where she could have left him and not been poor (blackmailing him for something or some way around a pre-nup if there was one). And yep, why did she take the plant with her? Ginny and Austin taking off on the motorcycle just made me eye roll. 1. I don't think she moved the body. I think she called 911 and claimed he had a heart attack 2. She already had the plant was my understanding. I thought there was a very short time frame between touching and killing. And even if she was older, she most likely did not learn valuable coping skills with the life she had leading up to that point. We are shown she had a lot more coping/life skills as she's older. She's not a naive and fearful teen anymore. This is a woman who had managed to move up in life and soon after her second husband died we see her move to a new town and soon become a prominent townsmember with the mayor wrapped around her finger. She could talk her way out of anything. I definitely think as a 30 yo mother of two that she had more capabilities than to go to lizard brain mode and murder someone at the first sign of being a potential threat. Even if the touch and the murder happened in close proximity, there was at least some time to think it through a bit. It wasn't just a fight or flight reaction. Also, like klong11 mentioned, whoever this Martin guy is has the connections to dig up bodies and make them disappear, so why didn't she just have him threaten husband #2 to agree to a quick divorce and give her a chunk of change? That murder definitely showed more signs of psychopathy than being trapped.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 16:40:55 GMT -6
1. I don't think she moved the body. I think she called 911 and claimed he had a heart attack 2. She already had the plant was my understanding. I thought there was a very short time frame between touching and killing. And even if she was older, she most likely did not learn valuable coping skills with the life she had leading up to that point. We are shown she had a lot more coping/life skills as she's older. She's not a naive and fearful teen anymore. This is a woman who had managed to move up in life and soon after her second husband died we see her move to a new town and soon become a prominent townsmember with the mayor wrapped around her finger. She could talk her way out of anything. I definitely think as a 30 yo mother of two that she had more capabilities than to go to lizard brain mode and murder someone at the first sign of being a potential threat. Even if the touch and the murder happened in close proximity, there was at least some time to think it through a bit. It wasn't just a fight or flight reaction. Also, like klong11 mentioned, whoever this Martin guy is has the connections to dig up bodies and make them disappear, so why didn't she just have him threaten husband #2 to agree to a quick divorce and give her a chunk of change? That murder definitely showed more signs of psychopathy than being trapped. Trauma is weird, man. Of course, I don't condone murder, we're shooting the shit about a TV show lol just as a disclaimer
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Post by inthekitty on Apr 1, 2021 17:07:20 GMT -6
We are shown she had a lot more coping/life skills as she's older. She's not a naive and fearful teen anymore. This is a woman who had managed to move up in life and soon after her second husband died we see her move to a new town and soon become a prominent townsmember with the mayor wrapped around her finger. She could talk her way out of anything. I definitely think as a 30 yo mother of two that she had more capabilities than to go to lizard brain mode and murder someone at the first sign of being a potential threat. Even if the touch and the murder happened in close proximity, there was at least some time to think it through a bit. It wasn't just a fight or flight reaction. Also, like klong11 mentioned, whoever this Martin guy is has the connections to dig up bodies and make them disappear, so why didn't she just have him threaten husband #2 to agree to a quick divorce and give her a chunk of change? That murder definitely showed more signs of psychopathy than being trapped. Trauma is weird, man. Of course, I don't condone murder, we're shooting the shit about a TV show lol just as a disclaimer Oh I know. But I'm definitely on the she's a black widow side. I wouldn't be surprised if she's the one behind the crimes that landed Austin's dad in prison.
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Post by jubilantsquirrel on Apr 1, 2021 17:10:56 GMT -6
Trauma is weird, man. Of course, I don't condone murder, we're shooting the shit about a TV show lol just as a disclaimer Oh I know. But I'm definitely on the she's a black widow side. I wouldn't be surprised if she's the one behind the crimes that landed Austin's dad in prison. I definitely don't think of GA as some well dressed vigilante. I think she's for sure a psychopath, a very pretty psychopath, but a psychopath nonetheless. And I think she for sure is the reason why Austin's dad is in prison. I mean she pretty much said as much, albeit in a "joking" manner.
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Post by wildflower on Apr 8, 2021 19:12:26 GMT -6
I just finished this. I think I liked it less as it went on? Everyone got all twisted and warped. Like Paul's impassioned speech to Georgia about wanting power. He doesn't love her, he loves what she does and how bold she is about lying.
Husband #1 was absolutely a creepy, rapey dude who probably would have pimped her out. "Can I buy you a bath bomb?" and then scoffs when she says she needs healthcare.
How does one insert ashes into fireworks anyway?
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Post by wildflower on Apr 8, 2021 19:21:00 GMT -6
My absolute favorite part of the show was Clint. Racism was tackled head on and so much good writing there. But then off, in the corner, you have a Deaf dad who is just a normal guy. Ellen doesn't have trauma about being married to a Deaf person, Max and Marcus don't deal with CODA identity issues (though they could), Clint's d/Deafness isn't a big deal... but it's normal representation of a minority within a show and I really appreciated that.
Oh, and their "signing while talking" level of signing was perfect. Absolutely awkward and messy from a sign language standpoint, which it always is.
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Post by inthekitty on Apr 9, 2021 10:52:48 GMT -6
I just finished this. I think I liked it less as it went on? Everyone got all twisted and warped. Like Paul's impassioned speech to Georgia about wanting power. He doesn't love her, he loves what she does and how bold she is about lying. Husband #1 was absolutely a creepy, rapey dude who probably would have pimped her out. "Can I buy you a bath bomb?" and then scoffs when she says she needs healthcare. How does one insert ashes into fireworks anyway? We're on the same page. It was too messy and all over the place. Either do the teen and mom relationship schtick or the black widow angle. Both don't mix. I actually think if they'd just went the black widow angle, focused on Georgia and cut out all the whiny teen drama I would have liked it better. And yes to your thoughts on Paul. Initially I liked him then you see he's just a power hungry douche. I also liked that there was a deaf character and it was not made into a big thing.
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Post by klong11 on Apr 9, 2021 21:30:58 GMT -6
I've read season 2 theories that Ginny is heading for Zion. I just don't think she is. She was pissed at him. I think she's headed to Georgia's parents. To meet them and get the real story of who she was.
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Post by reginaphalange8 on Jan 21, 2023 17:22:59 GMT -6
Has anyone else watched the new season? I just finished {Spoiler}I was really liking the Georgia/Ginny really liking the relationship progression and then Georgia had to fuck it up and kill Tom. I was really hoping that Cynthia had directly asked her to and I hate how that went down. I don’t understand why she did it. I have no idea how anyone else found out though
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Post by frlcb on Jan 22, 2023 9:00:36 GMT -6
Has anyone else watched the new season? I just finished
I watched it, I thought it was good and I liked how they did the one episode from the view of her bf being depressed and then from her view in the next one.
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Post by Nonniedee on Jan 23, 2023 21:34:55 GMT -6
I liked season 2. I’m honestly tired of the PI 🙄
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Post by goldenbird on Jan 24, 2023 9:20:10 GMT -6
I liked season 2. I’m honestly tired of the PI 🙄 Me too. It's getting old. The show isn't going to go the way of having her caught and put in jail so we can be done with him now, thanks.
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Post by meggomyeggo on Jan 24, 2023 13:54:20 GMT -6
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I want to see more of Joe. I was realllly intrigued when they showed him pulling a Georgia-esque move to get his bully into trouble for “stealing test answers.” It makes me more convinced they are end-game.
I wonder if the mayor will find out what happened to the ex-husbands and if he will actually stick around. Do not care about him at all.
I still love all the high school storylines. And I agreed about being over the PI. I really wonder what will happen with the coworker/bridesman (can’t remember his name). I liked this season overall.
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