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Post by Jesslfar on Feb 21, 2021 21:23:34 GMT -6
This thread is to discuss the documentary Allen Vs Farrow to keep to subjects out of the blinds. I’ll start watching this week. Hope somebody is ready to discuss this.
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Post by yellowwallpaper on Feb 22, 2021 13:29:55 GMT -6
I just watched the first episode. I didn’t think it was possible to hate him more but here we are.
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Post by Bookshelves on Mar 18, 2021 9:37:41 GMT -6
I have it in my queue to watch soon. I was just about to during my treadmill run yesterday but I couldn’t get myself in that headspace. Just commenting so I’ll remember to come back to this thread.
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Post by chriskoo on Mar 18, 2021 10:27:53 GMT -6
I’m hoping to watch this weekend. I have a huge platonic crush on Ronan Farrow - I got a glimpse of what Dylan went through from his book Catch and Kill, I’m ready to be enraged by this documentary.
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Post by yellowwallpaper on Mar 18, 2021 10:51:05 GMT -6
I finished watching last night. I believed Dylan back in 2014 when she wrote her open letter and all the evidence in the doc reinforces that.
Does anyone else think Woody offered money to Moses to get him to switch sides? He tried to do that with Ronan but it didn’t work.
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Post by yellowwallpaper on Mar 18, 2021 10:52:11 GMT -6
I’m hoping to watch this weekend. I have a huge platonic crush on Ronan Farrow - I got a glimpse of what Dylan went through from his book Catch and Kill, I’m ready to be enraged by this documentary. I love Ronan Farrow. Catch and Kill was such a good book. |
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Post by ouijabored on Mar 22, 2021 8:33:04 GMT -6
Finally finished it. It’s amazing how he was able to get away with it this whole time by attacking Mia’s character and fitness as a mother.
I didn’t really follow the story growing up but I do remember hearing people talk about it like “who knows, Mia seems crazy for adopting all those kids and she might have turned the little girl against him.” A lot of celebrities said stuff like that throughout the 90s and 2000s.
No one should continue to defend him (or themselves for working with him) with that justification after watching this.
And if you think his affair with Soon Yi didn’t start until she was 18, I have a bridge to sell you. It’s so bizarre to me that people gave that part a pass for so long. Let alone the stuff with Dylan.
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Post by maybe on Mar 22, 2021 15:33:04 GMT -6
This was a really well done documentary. I have never watched any of his films and would never now. I am side eyeing anyone who works with him now.
Also, Mia and their whole lifestyle is just strange or so upper class and elite that it's almost unrelatabl. It's not all the kids. It's the little stuff like rushing to the therapist first or talking to Woody with his therapist. I shudder to think how many hours a week they spent with therapists, and this goes back way before the trauma so I am not talking about coping with learning he's a molester. Another bizarre thing includes him agreeing to have a kid with the condition that he wouldn't have anything to do with it. So, did Andre Previn just disappear. I know he is dead but I wish they had addressed that.
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Post by fb on Mar 23, 2021 6:55:58 GMT -6
I watched. Aside from all of the obvious, there was something that really intrigued me.
Toward the end, Mia said something along the lines of she wishes she had never met Woody or brought him into her family's life. That they'd all be better off had they never even met. Which is interesting considering they "share a child" in Ronan. TO ME, that sounded a little like an accidental possible confirmation that Ronan's biological father is not Woody (I mean could be be any more of a ringer for Frank??). Otherwise, wouldn't you say something to the effect of "I can't regret knowing him since I got Ronan" or something like that. I don't know, I could be reading more into the comment.
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Post by yellowwallpaper on Mar 23, 2021 18:39:04 GMT -6
I watched. Aside from all of the obvious, there was something that really intrigued me. Toward the end, Mia said something along the lines of she wishes she had never met Woody or brought him into her family's life. That they'd all be better off had they never even met. Which is interesting considering they "share a child" in Ronan. TO ME, that sounded a little like an accidental possible confirmation that Ronan's biological father is not Woody (I mean could be be any more of a ringer for Frank??). Otherwise, wouldn't you say something to the effect of "I can't regret knowing him since I got Ronan" or something like that. I don't know, I could be reading more into the comment. Yes!! I caught that comment too. |
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Mar 24, 2021 7:44:13 GMT -6
I caught that comment, as well, and have thought for years, there is no way in hell that is Woody's child. I mean there isn't one speck of him in Ronan but the resemblance to Frank is astonishing.  |
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Mar 24, 2021 7:55:59 GMT -6
Other thoughts:
I definitely believed Dylan when she first posted her story. The whole Soon-Yi episode and even if she had been of age (barely) when they started their affair, she was 18 to his 50-something. A man that had been involved in her life and her mother's partner for over a decade. A man who saw a vulnerable young woman and took full advantage of it and it's sad to know she's still drinking the WA Kool-Aid 30 years later. I absolutely believe they were sleeping together before Soon-Yi came of age (per the testimony of the maids et al).
But all the accounts of others at Woody's obsessiveness with Dylan and his inappropriate behavior that they DID witness. Just gross and heartbreaking for her.
Moses must want in Woody's will badly to have changed sides. And it annoys me that he insists on calling Ronan "Satchel."
Woody's claim that Mia coerced others into backing up her story is ludicrous as it's been HOW many years since Rosemary's Baby? He, with all the fawning accolades from Hollywood (which gross to all those idiots) had far more power.
Mia does come off a bit odd in this and after realizing the number of children she adopted on top of her other children, it does make me side-eye her a bit in terms of how was able to properly care for all of their needs and why did she keep adopting, but even so, her possible shortcomings as a mother doesn't negate Woody molesting Dylan one iota.
Willy's own comments about Soon-Yi in his book should tell everyone everything they need to know about what a pathological predator he is:
“Here was a sharp, classy, fabulous young woman: highly intelligent, full of latent potential, and ready to ripen superbly if only someone would show her a little interest, a little support, and most important, some love.”
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Post by Bookshelves on Mar 26, 2021 13:20:21 GMT -6
(Episode 1)
After trying to get pregnant, Mia asked if they could adopt.
(Paraphrasing Mia) “He said, if I wanted to do that, it wouldn’t ruin the relationship, but he wanted nothing to do with it... I might be more kindly disposed if it was a little blond girl.”
Wow on several levels.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Mar 26, 2021 13:38:16 GMT -6
Why Mia didn't run, or at least walk, away from him after that conversation is beyond me.
And maybe it's just me, but it seemed there was a little bit of Mia thinking they could work things out, even after Dylan revealed the abuse and the affair with Soon-Yi. Which is beyond messed up but shows he fucked with her mind as well.
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