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Post by dc2london on Jan 4, 2021 7:08:50 GMT -6
trueblue I'm so sorry for the positive cases and for the quarantine. Thank you for being so cautious and responsible. Is there anything we can do for you?
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Post by lemondrop on Jan 4, 2021 7:44:13 GMT -6
PDQ: more info later
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Post by trueblue on Jan 4, 2021 8:22:27 GMT -6
trueblue I'm so sorry for the positive cases and for the quarantine. Thank you for being so cautious and responsible. Is there anything we can do for you? Y’all just being here, and being generally like minded, is more than you will ever know. I am not surrounded by many, including extended family and friends, who think like I do and it makes me start to question my decision making process. When your MIL is actually debating whether she should go out to lunch with friends right after her son got out of isolation and her oldest grandchild is positive? It’s all very WTAF. Apparently our experience isn’t enough. She even asked her doctor who didn’t come right out and say no you should not. Then again she did not once call or message me to see how the kids and I were doing while H was in isolation (H talksto his dad everyday). I have no doubt she is going to lunch.
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Post by byjove on Jan 4, 2021 8:29:56 GMT -6
trueblue, that is a mess for sure. FX everyone stays mild and your quarantine doesn't go to worst case scenario :/
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Post by Rebel on Jan 4, 2021 8:48:17 GMT -6
Awwww Rebel bless your beautiful heart My heart is such a socialist. 😂😂😂😂 Pot makes me a dreamer. It’s one of my favorite things. Lol
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Post by Rebel on Jan 4, 2021 8:52:18 GMT -6
trueblue that’s insanity. I’m sorry you are dealing with this! As a country we could FIX this. Yes it will take a LOT of money. (Like a lot lol). But with a shitton of constant free testing, stimulus payments to those that have to stay home because of the virus and/or quarantine, etc.....we could cut our numbers by like 75% in 6 weeks.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 4, 2021 8:58:21 GMT -6
trueblue that’s insanity. I’m sorry you are dealing with this! As a country we could FIX this. Yes it will take a LOT of money. (Like a lot lol). But with a shitton of constant free testing, stimulus payments to those that have to stay home because of the virus and/or quarantine, etc.....we could cut our numbers by like 75% in 6 weeks. It's going to cost us a lot of money either way. We can pay people to stay home or we can pay the hospital bills they can't afford.
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Post by byjove on Jan 4, 2021 9:04:32 GMT -6
trueblue that’s insanity. I’m sorry you are dealing with this! As a country we could FIX this. Yes it will take a LOT of money. (Like a lot lol). But with a shitton of constant free testing, stimulus payments to those that have to stay home because of the virus and/or quarantine, etc.....we could cut our numbers by like 75% in 6 weeks. It's going to cost us a lot of money either way. We can pay people to stay home or we can pay the hospital bills they can't afford. A 2 week ICU stay is $150ishK, before other required treatments, for one person. That would be a lot of $2k payments...
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Post by byjove on Jan 4, 2021 9:12:51 GMT -6
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Post by goldenbird on Jan 4, 2021 9:52:48 GMT -6
I think unfortunately it comes down to the fact that a lot of people aren't going to stay home. Even if they don't have to go to work/school/can't dine in or go into non essential business. They will gather in homes with each other or wherever they want, and in most states, no one will do shit about it. You have all these Trumper governors and Law enforcement saying they aren't going to enforce or fine or shut down shit right now. I don't think they'll care if Biden orders a shutdown.
I would love to be wrong.
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Post by goldenbird on Jan 4, 2021 9:53:18 GMT -6
See also a nationwide mask mandate.
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Post by goldenbird on Jan 4, 2021 9:54:31 GMT -6
I want that 2k stimulus for everyone because it's desperately needed. But at this point I think the vaccine is our only hope because after 10 months so so so many people in this country are just over it and they don't care anymore.
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Post by sctiger on Jan 4, 2021 10:08:13 GMT -6
Currently you are supposed to get the second dose 4 weeks after the first dose, correct? What is you got the second dose three or even six months later? Would it still be fully effective? Or after a certain time do you have to start over?
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Post by justkeepmoving on Jan 4, 2021 10:23:10 GMT -6
I agree goldenbird. With the number of people on Facebook I see having large gatherings, traveling all over, etc I really don’t see anything changing that. I think people are tired from trying to do the precautions. So much of our society now is all about instant gratification that people aren’t used to actual long times to do things, such as precautions necessary right now. My SIL has mentioned why should she continue to head all the precautions and staying home when everyone else is out and about enjoying their lives. I think the messaging has been such a fuck up since the beginning.
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Post by sewf on Jan 4, 2021 10:42:33 GMT -6
I WISH I could stay home. I loved lockdown. But especially now, working in retail, I would love to be home. Everyone I work with would love to be home. The higher threat of contracting covid seems to increase to willingness to stay home. (This is based on me and my friends, many of whom work in service industry or restaurant jobs.) I have been belittled, yelled at, and threatened because of our mask mandate for employees and customers at work (which I am very happy about having). The stress from working in a store over the course of this has been so detrimental to a lot of my coworkers mental health. We all need a vacation. And Ativan or Xanax.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 4, 2021 10:52:46 GMT -6
Currently you are supposed to get the second dose 4 weeks after the first dose, correct? What is you got the second dose three or even six months later? Would it still be fully effective? Or after a certain time do you have to start over? They don't know yet
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Post by dc2london on Jan 4, 2021 10:53:18 GMT -6
I WISH I could stay home. I loved lockdown. But especially now, working in retail, I would love to be home. Everyone I work with would love to be home. The higher threat of contracting covid seems to increase to willingness to stay home. (This is based on me and my friends, many of whom work in service industry or restaurant jobs.) I have been belittled, yelled at, and threatened because of our mask mandate for employees and customers at work (which I am very happy about having). The stress from working in a store over the course of this has been so detrimental to a lot of my coworkers mental health. We all need a vacation. And Ativan or Xanax. I'm sorry 😞
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Post by abs on Jan 4, 2021 11:04:38 GMT -6
I think unfortunately it comes down to the fact that a lot of people aren't going to stay home. Even if they don't have to go to work/school/can't dine in or go into non essential business. They will gather in homes with each other or wherever they want, and in most states, no one will do shit about it. You have all these Trumper governors and Law enforcement saying they aren't going to enforce or fine or shut down shit right now. I don't think they'll care if Biden orders a shutdown. I would love to be wrong. Exactly. People won't do the right thing or make sacrifices to protect others. They just won't. They will complain about their freedoms being taken away and continue to have large parties and sleepovers. I see it every day here.
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Jan 4, 2021 11:22:08 GMT -6
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Post by goldenlove on Jan 4, 2021 11:51:07 GMT -6
I agree goldenbird. With the number of people on Facebook I see having large gatherings, traveling all over, etc I really don’t see anything changing that. I think people are tired from trying to do the precautions. So much of our society now is all about instant gratification that people aren’t used to actual long times to do things, such as precautions necessary right now. My SIL has mentioned why should she continue to head all the precautions and staying home when everyone else is out and about enjoying their lives. I think the messaging has been such a fuck up since the beginning. Yup unfortunately at this point I don't think Biden can do as much as far as messaging and getting people to do the right thing. The time for that was a year ago but we had a manbaby who couldn't do the right thing for once in his life. And the ironic thing is that if he handled things correctly, I think he would have won the election. He just could not look past the next days bad news cycle.
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Post by athn64 on Jan 4, 2021 11:52:09 GMT -6
I agree goldenbird . With the number of people on Facebook I see having large gatherings, traveling all over, etc I really don’t see anything changing that. I think people are tired from trying to do the precautions. So much of our society now is all about instant gratification that people aren’t used to actual long times to do things, such as precautions necessary right now. My SIL has mentioned why should she continue to head all the precautions and staying home when everyone else is out and about enjoying their lives. I think the messaging has been such a fuck up since the beginning. Yup unfortunately at this point I don't think Biden can do as much as far as messaging and getting people to do the right thing. The time for that was a year ago but we had a manbaby who couldn't do the right thing for once in his life. And the ironic thing is that if he handled things correctly, I think he would have won the election. He just could not look past the next days bad news cycle. Plus, you know, he has a complete lack of empathy and disregard for his fellow man
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Post by lemondrop on Jan 4, 2021 12:08:34 GMT -6
PDQ: this post has self destructed
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Jan 4, 2021 12:15:52 GMT -6
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Post by byjove on Jan 4, 2021 12:16:40 GMT -6
lemondrop, to your last point... can we just trust the damn scientists already?!
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Post by lemondrop on Jan 4, 2021 12:16:40 GMT -6
Sent ya a PM
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Post by lemondrop on Jan 4, 2021 12:21:19 GMT -6
lemondrop , to your last point... can we just trust the damn scientists already?! One of my PIs on the west coast literally asked why we even bothered doing 30-40k person trials if those in charge of OWS are basically just going to do what they want anyway. And this is someone who's organization made $$$$$ running these trials. There very much could have been other trials being run, we are only privy to the protocols on the trials that we ran - but this is data manipulation.
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Post by cakewench on Jan 4, 2021 12:22:38 GMT -6
Just got the call about an hour ago, one of N's daycare teachers tested positive. She was exposed through her son, tested Saturday and got results this morning. They are closing down for the week and deep cleaning. I hope the teacher and her son are OK H has been furloughed again, so at least home to help.
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Post by byjove on Jan 4, 2021 12:28:14 GMT -6
cakewench, big, gentle hugs <3 FX it doesn't spread. The one, isolated case at DD2's preschool didn't spread at all, if that's hopeful.
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Post by byjove on Jan 4, 2021 12:30:30 GMT -6
lemondrop , to your last point... can we just trust the damn scientists already?! One of my PIs on the west coast literally asked why we even bothered doing 30-40k person trials if those in charge of OWS are basically just going to do what they want anyway. And this is someone who's organization made $$$$$ running these trials. There very much could have been other trials being run, we are only privy to the protocols on the trials that we ran - but this is data manipulation. It's maddening.
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Post by lemondrop on Jan 4, 2021 12:39:26 GMT -6
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