Tlex
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Post by Tlex on Sept 21, 2020 9:08:09 GMT -6
Hell yes it is. I’m testing to avoid 14 straight days in this apartment with my kids! Get thee some negatives and get us OUT of here! I would just hang out with the swab in my nose to avoid 14 days being locked in my house.  I would bike to the testing center naked, and stand outside with a swab in my nose for a full day humming at full volume to avoid 14 straight days in the house. Keep upping the anty I swear to Dan Levy’s eyebrows I’ll do it all. |
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Post by Rusty Red on Sept 21, 2020 9:08:09 GMT -6
It’s the 20th anniversary of Linkin Park’s Hybrid Theory. I’m gonna hunt up some headphones and listen while I clean my house. I sadly did not really fall in love with them until after his passing, but now I have so many of their songs on my running playlist. |
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Post by dc2london on Sept 21, 2020 9:08:19 GMT -6
I was billed nearly $200 for my covid test appointment. I think it was kind of scammy because I was directed to a clinic for the test and then checked my blood pressure and breathing, so it was billed as if it was an office visit checkup. Kinda bullshit. They always find a loophole. |
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Post by canteverremember on Sept 21, 2020 9:10:10 GMT -6
I probably shouldn’t involve myself but kbw I don’t understand why “doctors offices are pissed”. Like.... this is WHY they exist. Yeah it sucks the stakes are higher this year when it comes to allergies vs cold vs serious virus. But guess what? I’m “pissed” when another person dies in front of me who got exposed unnecessarily (whether it was their doing or not). I’m “pissed” when I’m trying to tell families they have to be ready for their loved one to die and they can’t cope. I’m “pissed” I didn’t get to go see my own grandma one last time because of strict SIP rules. But I don’t let that stop me from continuing on and spreading awareness and giving everything I have. Any MD office that’s “pissed” they’re fielding calls/visits/questions needs to GFTO. Yeah I’m in Ma where it’s reasonably low but my dr office is very much taking it seriously and wants to know every symptom and would never be pissed. I would change doctors if I called in and they seemed pissed. That’s how this won’t go away, people carrying on going around others not knowing if they’re sick or not. I get it’s a hassle but Jesus. Maybe that’s why my state is doing so well, it encourages testing and quarantine for typical symptoms, which in my state is runny nose and or congestion not just cough. |
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Post by rvasc on Sept 21, 2020 9:10:52 GMT -6
Well, my 7 year old needs braces. But we have insurance coverage!
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Post by willow on Sept 21, 2020 9:11:06 GMT -6
The school is closing down until October 5 as protocol dictates. My son told us who was missing from school today and it is his BFF so definitely close exposure. We are all on our way to get tested at a walk in clinic that supposedly has 24-48 hour testing.
Our nanny is home with the babies and she was ok being with them while we were gone testing. I gave her the option to go home but she’s 23 and said she was comfortable staying.
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Post by ftwr on Sept 21, 2020 9:11:26 GMT -6
I wondered why the Monday randoms would be 6 pages already.  |
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Post by Rusty Red on Sept 21, 2020 9:11:47 GMT -6
Never mind, link isn't working.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 9:11:52 GMT -6
WFH is not simple for me. Yes, it can be done, but there are things that have to be done from the office. And if I WFH, I will be asked to test as well or WFH for 2 weeks. It is 50 for me to get a test through insurance.
I have to mail things to people as well as phone calls that I hm have to use my personal phone for when I'm WFH.
My situation isn't just keep my happy ass at home la de da. Its just not.
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Post by rvasc on Sept 21, 2020 9:12:20 GMT -6
I wondered why the Monday randoms would be 6 pages already. I’m ignoring. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 9:13:06 GMT -6
And even if I'm WFH and I don't have adequate things to do, I have to take sick time so even WFH doesn't prevent me using up my sick time.
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Tlex
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Post by Tlex on Sept 21, 2020 9:13:21 GMT -6
I am honestly not trying to be argumentative about this, but we’ve been talking about it all summer. About what’s going to happen when cold and flu season happens. And now that we’re in it it seems like a very gray area. No, I'm with you. There's definitely been a vibe of "we can't quarantine with every little cold" wrt kids starting school. And people have talked about having allergy symptoms and not getting tested, without this response. But today you're trying to kill people 🤷♀️ Testing isn't widely available everywhere and there are plenty of workplaces that will give you shit even if you technically have the sick time. I'm not speaking to Olive's situation specifically, but "quarantine with every cold" is just not as simple of a decision as people are making it. I asked our school what to do since we’re those people with allergies, asthma, and shitty immune systems who always have something going on symptom wise from Sept-May. They said a negative test + improvement of symptoms for 24 hours = return to school is ok. So if D2’s test is negative, but her sniffles stick around for the next month, she’s ok to come to school with that but will need a new test with the presentation of any *new* symptoms from there on out, if that makes sense? It felt really reasonable to me. So like if she gets one virus and has her barking asthma cough for the rest of winter (typical) they won’t make her keep testing, but if she gets a fever it’s back to get a test. |
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Post by tmg on Sept 21, 2020 9:13:21 GMT -6
Katie Porter told me COVID tests are supposed to be free. Mine and DS' were free but we got billed for Dad's from Labcorp. The should be free if they were billed with the right diagnosis code. That's the problem we are finding. If they are billed with just a symptoms code like Cough, Fever, etc, they aren't processing correctly at the insurance level. |
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Post by emma on Sept 21, 2020 9:14:09 GMT -6
thanks, I’ll look for those. I recently developed a nice stress induced cold allergy so this mornings bike ride resulted is swollen fingers, lips and ears and hives over my thighs. I need a fleece balaclava and toaster suit apparently Oh fuck. So sorry. Your stress induced allergies are always tough to avoid things! Why can’t you just be allergic to like.... koalas. i know right, the Inside Out people that control the dashboard in my brain have a real twisted sense of humour! I'd prefer to go back to eggs or dairy, this now one is ridiculous. |
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Post by lagom on Sept 21, 2020 9:14:48 GMT -6
Also, aren't covid tests and such supposed to be covered by the CARES money so no charge to the patient? Only copays are covered, and only for the test itself. So if there is an associated doctor visit and you are on a HDHP, you still pay. If your provider doesn’t give tests and you are sent to an ER/ urgent care, you have to pay for an ER visit. Suffice to say, health care sucks for much of the country, and especially so for those in rural areas. I’m also not clear if a self insured company has to apply CARES rules or not. |
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Post by Rusty Red on Sept 21, 2020 9:15:00 GMT -6
I wondered why the Monday randoms would be 6 pages already. You were shocked, right? |
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Post by dc2london on Sept 21, 2020 9:16:56 GMT -6
Also, aren't covid tests and such supposed to be covered by the CARES money so no charge to the patient? Only copays are covered, and only for the test itself. So if there is an associated doctor visit and you are on a HDHP, you still pay. If your provider doesn’t give tests and you are sent to an ER/ urgent care, you have to pay for an ER visit. Suffice to say, health care sucks for much of the country, and especially so for those in rural areas. I’m also not clear if a self insured company has to apply CARES rules or not. I am mega salty about American health care this morning. |
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Post by thatgolfb on Sept 21, 2020 9:17:26 GMT -6
I'm sighing because I am guessing you don't understand a lot about the margins of error in lab testing. Maybe they did have false negatives. That doesn't mean the results are totally useless or that everyone's test result is inaccurate. But hey, if you aren't getting tested anyway, it truly does not matter. I will get tested if I need to. I've known people with positives too but the occurrence of false negatives scare me because of the people who go back to daily life of no distancing when they get the negative results despite symptoms. I mean, sure, it's not great that there are false negatives. But in most places, the rate is not that high. You only hear about the places with 30% rates on the news because that's really bad. Catching even 70% of the positives and isolating them is helpful, though. Assuming those people all are tested and isolate, at least. Which... lol no that isn't happening. |
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Post by riverrider on Sept 21, 2020 9:17:45 GMT -6
It varies widely, but false negatives are pretty common (I think the range is like 2% all the way up to 30%, something like that?). Much more common than false positives. It has a lot to do with the method of collection. It's easy to miss those particles with a swab, or have an issue with the transport media. It's possible it just hadn't incubated enough the first couple times to pick up the viral particles on the test. More likely, he just hadn't contracted it yet. They told us to hum during the swab and I’m guessing this moves things around so they’re more likely to get a good sample? I hummed my ass off. When my DS and I were tested, they said the same thing. They also told us to tilt our heads and placve them against the wall behind us to prevent trying to pull away. When my nephew had his most recent test (he has had 4 due to daycare exposure and then a double ear infection) he touched the first test so they had to do it again. He told the nurse in his almost-2 year old words "no no. bye bye" |
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Post by thatgolfb on Sept 21, 2020 9:18:41 GMT -6
I am going to attempt to check out of the convo. I'm tired of defending the lab testing. ETA: I will just add that you have to assume every single lab test you get has *some* margin of error. No test is 100% sensitive or 100% specific. I'm sorry if my comment upset you. To be clear, I wasn't trying to argue against testing. At all. I was just offering an anecdote of what we experienced. I would guess, due to the nature of the testing for this specific illness, there is probably some user error because it seems to be more difficult than normal to collect a specimen. I know nothing about lab testing, though. No, your comment didn't upset me at all! It's greenolive's comments that are grating. Your question was a good one. |
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Post by piratecat on Sept 21, 2020 9:18:47 GMT -6
I am honestly not trying to be argumentative about this, but we’ve been talking about it all summer. About what’s going to happen when cold and flu season happens. And now that we’re in it it seems like a very gray area. No, I'm with you. There's definitely been a vibe of "we can't quarantine with every little cold" wrt kids starting school. And people have talked about having allergy symptoms and not getting tested, without this response. But today you're trying to kill people 🤷♀️ Testing isn't widely available everywhere and there are plenty of workplaces that will give you shit even if you technically have the sick time. I'm not speaking to Olive's situation specifically, but "quarantine with every cold" is just not as simple of a decision as people are making it. But every school and workplace have protocols so it's not like it's really up to individuals to decide (unless you are actively trying to conceal symptoms). I can't send my kid to preschool with a COVID symptom period. Stuffy/runny nose by itself is not on the list of symptoms, thankfully, because he's been waking up stuffy for 6 months. He wouldn't need to isolate for 10 days but he does need a doctor's note or a negative test to return. I have to pay $160 out of pocket for every office visit - it would suck. We can be frustrated and complain about it (and I would be even more frustrated if he had to be out for 10 days, and also what about this pandemic doesn't absolutely suck?) but those are the rules and there's nothing I can do about it (but vent). greenolive said she's nervous her workplace would find out she has cold symptoms and make her stay home, so it sounded like it would be the opposite of giving her shit. |
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Post by Tlex on Sept 21, 2020 9:18:48 GMT -6
I asked our school what to do since we’re those people with allergies, asthma, and shitty immune systems who always have something going on symptom wise from Sept-May. They said a negative test + improvement of symptoms for 24 hours = return to school is ok. So if D2’s test is negative, but her sniffles stick around for the next month, she’s ok to come to school with that but will need a new test with the presentation of any *new* symptoms from there on out, if that makes sense? It felt really reasonable to me. So like if she gets one virus and has her barking asthma cough for the rest of winter (typical) they won’t make her keep testing, but if she gets a fever it’s back to get a test. I think that makes a lot of sense. I feel like ours is similar but I need to check. When we were sick earlier this summer, we all quarantined until results, but that was the only time she got sick. Usually she has a bunch of colds in the summer. Yay distancing! Lol If testing was widely available everywhere and high copays weren't a thing, I'd have a different overall opinion. But weee America. I think it’s so case by case too - work in a building that serves the general public? Alarm 🚨 ! Be extra. Kid with known allergies with sniffles but zero other symptoms, wearing a mask to school? Less alarms. ETA actually I retract the above. Everyone should just follow the damn screening protocol and not make their own best judgements. Unless your state has no screening protocol? I don’t know. |
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Post by Bluebird on Sept 21, 2020 9:18:59 GMT -6
Today is the day I will say goodbye to my 17 year old dog. I’ve had him since he was a tiny puppy, and I hardly remember life without him.
I am currently snuggling with him and pulling out old pics instead of working.
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Post by tookie on Sept 21, 2020 9:19:33 GMT -6
I got too excited about being on vacation last night and am a wee bit hungover this morning. Get thee a greasy breakfast stat! Where are you on vacation? |
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Post by beatch on Sept 21, 2020 9:19:55 GMT -6
Ulta is having a 10x/5x points sale today. I'm ruminating on the products.
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Post by Tlex on Sept 21, 2020 9:21:12 GMT -6
I really didn't find the test that bad. But I have had sinus surgery and thus am very used to shut being shoved up my nose further than god intended. I said “no ones ever touched me there before” and I could see the nurse’s eyes bug out like did she really just make that joke I’m a work in progress |
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Post by piratecat on Sept 21, 2020 9:22:51 GMT -6
Today is the day I will say goodbye to my 17 year old dog. I’ve had him since he was a tiny puppy, and I hardly remember life without him. I am currently snuggling with him and pulling out old pics instead of working. I am so sorry. ❤️️ |
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Post by byjove on Sept 21, 2020 9:22:51 GMT -6
Well, my 7 year old needs braces. But we have insurance coverage! I am very jealous of the latter! My newly 7 yo went to the orthodontist last week and it was bad, so she already has her spacers in getting ready for the whole shebang in a couple of weeks. No orthodontic coverage though *sob* |
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Post by lagom on Sept 21, 2020 9:23:46 GMT -6
Only copays are covered, and only for the test itself. So if there is an associated doctor visit and you are on a HDHP, you still pay. If your provider doesn’t give tests and you are sent to an ER/ urgent care, you have to pay for an ER visit. Suffice to say, health care sucks for much of the country, and especially so for those in rural areas. I’m also not clear if a self insured company has to apply CARES rules or not. I am mega salty about American health care this morning. Listen, we recently moved to a rural area and a state that has not adopted Medicaid expansion. I am even salty about the healthcare available to my dogs. (Which, lol or something, the local vet clinic is currently shut down due to COVID exposure). |
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Post by emma on Sept 21, 2020 9:23:52 GMT -6
WFH is not simple for me. Yes, it can be done, but there are things that have to be done from the office. And if I WFH, I will be asked to test as well or WFH for 2 weeks. It is 50 for me to get a test through insurance. I have to mail things to people as well as phone calls that I hm have to use my personal phone for when I'm WFH. My situation isn't just keep my happy ass at home la de da. Its just not. my gosh your woe is me list of excuses is tiring at best. It's a pandemic, shit's hard for most people and it's not impossible for you to WFH or have YD out of the house while you do it. Between yourself, YH and YD you all have a laundry list of symptoms, stop being deliberately obtuse and get a damn test |
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