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Post by willow on Sept 21, 2020 8:39:33 GMT -6
fuck. A kid at daycare tested positive over the weekend. The daycare provider couldn't confirm the person of course but said it was one of my son's good friends.
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Post by dc2london on Sept 21, 2020 8:40:50 GMT -6
I have an appointment with my sleep doctor and I’m nervous. I have sleep apnea and two years ago I lost enough weight that I could safely ditch my cpap with my doctor’s permission. I did but now I’ve gained enough weight back that I need it again. I convinced myself that I would just lose the weight and be fine. But I didn’t. And it’s a little of a catch 22 because I can’t really lose weight when I’m not getting good sleep. Anyways, I feel dumb and like a failure. So hopefully getting my cpap back is not too hard and I swear I’m not letting go of it this time even if I lose weight (which is what my PCP told me). You are neither dumb nor a failure. You are a beautiful sunflower who is doing what she needs to do to improve her health.
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Post by paperbagliz on Sept 21, 2020 8:41:31 GMT -6
I agree with this. My brother had a positive test last weekend and is quarantined. He said any other year he wouldn’t have gone to the doctor for his mild symptoms (low grade fever, slight cough) but knew it was responsible to get tested. And he has it. I hope he is all better very soon Thank you! He’s otherwise healthy, but the future complications are scary.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 8:43:32 GMT -6
I read ivegotababy as saying Olive needed to quarantine even just if it’s a cold too. Maybe that’s why I was confused. It’s hard because not every area has test readily available and some people are still rejected from taking a test if they don’t have multiple symptoms. I fully understand it’s a pandemic, but it’s not that easy to do all the things necessary. I know it sucks and it's hard. I think it's just the general attitude (from a lot of people not just olive) of I'm just not going to bother, which is contributing to how badly the situation has become. She has sick days available to her. She also has WFH option available to her, and even if it is less than ideal with a kid at home, she can at least consider putting in a reasonable effort. I haven't said anything of why bother. I'm taking reasonable precautions while being able to work at an office. I will distance myself from all other people and wear a mask anywhere within the office that is common area. I will eat in my office. I will wash hands and germ x before going anywhere common area. My mother is aware we believe we have a virus (to which DD had symptoms for 1 day) and agreed she is comfortable with her still coming over. How am I throwing my hands up and coughing on people?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 8:44:16 GMT -6
I have an appointment with my sleep doctor and I’m nervous. I have sleep apnea and two years ago I lost enough weight that I could safely ditch my cpap with my doctor’s permission. I did but now I’ve gained enough weight back that I need it again. I convinced myself that I would just lose the weight and be fine. But I didn’t. And it’s a little of a catch 22 because I can’t really lose weight when I’m not getting good sleep. Anyways, I feel dumb and like a failure. So hopefully getting my cpap back is not too hard and I swear I’m not letting go of it this time even if I lose weight (which is what my PCP told me). I'm sorry. You're not a failure at all
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Post by jaygee on Sept 21, 2020 8:44:21 GMT -6
fuck. A kid at daycare tested positive over the weekend. The daycare provider couldn't confirm the person of course but said it was one of my son's good friends. fuckkkkk I’m sorry. Most likely everything will be ok. But I understand your worry. What’s the advice? Does he get tested as a precaution?
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Post by thatgolfb on Sept 21, 2020 8:44:34 GMT -6
But you weren't going to work. Didn’t she say she has her own office and doesn’t see anyone in person? If she wears a mask and properly sanitizes? ETA: What if she did get a Covid test and it was negative? Would she be clear to go to work then? Even with the cold? I’m Honestly curious to how far this will go. I assume that yes, if her covid test were negative, then she could go to work. Unless she has think she has the flu or something else like that. But if they can pretty much determine that it's just a cold, I don't see why she couldn't go to work. ETA: Ignore me! Listen to the doctor, lol.
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Post by thatgolfb on Sept 21, 2020 8:46:09 GMT -6
Didn’t she say she has her own office and doesn’t see anyone in person? If she wears a mask and properly sanitizes? ETA: What if she did get a Covid test and it was negative? Would she be clear to go to work then? Even with the cold? I’m Honestly curious to how far this will go. Yes, I would think she would be cleared to go to work with a negative test. Here, a headache is on the list of symptoms of COVID that would exclude you from coming to work/school. A runny nose by itself is not, so not every sniffle would require you to quarantine or get tested. These are the CDC recommendations. I'm not a doctor or an epidemiologist, I don't make the rules. Yes, there are a million other reasons a person gets a headache. It sucks, it's a pandemic. Should have just +1 this. And of course, this is #regional, but my work symptom checker is very stringent. Pretty much any new generic illness symptom prompts a test and quarantine until the test result is available. But then they had my coworker come to work because he had a negative test, even though his wife was positive, so I don't even know, man.
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Post by Tlex on Sept 21, 2020 8:47:19 GMT -6
We’re up and making an effort to start bike riding to before care agin. We rode all through summer to their camp program but we got out of the habit a month ago. I’m going to need to get some thin gloves to continue until snow Ice Breaker liner gloves are about $40 but so good - nice on their own or can go inside mittens if you’re playing or skiing.
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Post by piratecat on Sept 21, 2020 8:48:46 GMT -6
fuck. A kid at daycare tested positive over the weekend. The daycare provider couldn't confirm the person of course but said it was one of my son's good friends. fuckkkkk Ugh, I'm sorry.
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Post by brux on Sept 21, 2020 8:49:18 GMT -6
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Post by piratecat on Sept 21, 2020 8:49:33 GMT -6
I know it sucks and it's hard. I think it's just the general attitude (from a lot of people not just olive) of I'm just not going to bother, which is contributing to how badly the situation has become. She has sick days available to her. She also has WFH option available to her, and even if it is less than ideal with a kid at home, she can at least consider putting in a reasonable effort. I haven't said anything of why bother. I'm taking reasonable precautions while being able to work at an office. I will distance myself from all other people and wear a mask anywhere within the office that is common area. I will eat in my office. I will wash hands and germ x before going anywhere common area. My mother is aware we believe we have a virus (to which DD had symptoms for 1 day) and agreed she is comfortable with her still coming over. How am I throwing my hands up and coughing on people? But those are reasonable precautions that EVERYONE should be taking right now without symptoms. If your mom is comfortable watching your daughter, why can't you work from home?
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Post by thatgolfb on Sept 21, 2020 8:50:06 GMT -6
fuck. A kid at daycare tested positive over the weekend. The daycare provider couldn't confirm the person of course but said it was one of my son's good friends. fuckkkkk Oh nooo. I'm really sorry. What is their protocol? Are you guys supposed to have him tested after a few days?
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Post by Pistol on Sept 21, 2020 8:50:35 GMT -6
I know it sucks and it's hard. I think it's just the general attitude (from a lot of people not just olive) of I'm just not going to bother, which is contributing to how badly the situation has become. She has sick days available to her. She also has WFH option available to her, and even if it is less than ideal with a kid at home, she can at least consider putting in a reasonable effort. I haven't said anything of why bother. I'm taking reasonable precautions while being able to work at an office. I will distance myself from all other people and wear a mask anywhere within the office that is common area. I will eat in my office. I will wash hands and germ x before going anywhere common area. My mother is aware we believe we have a virus (to which DD had symptoms for 1 day) and agreed she is comfortable with her still coming over. How am I throwing my hands up and coughing on people? I tried hard to stay out of this but if your mom is still OK with watching your DD then why not take her to your mom's and return home and WFH which would alleviate *waves hands* all this. You said you cannot realistically WFH with a kid which I get. But if you have available childcare options (your mom who even if it is covid was likely already exposed due to being your DD's primary caretaker while you work so I can see why she would be comfortable continuing business as usual) then it should now be feasible to WFH, no?
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Post by brux on Sept 21, 2020 8:50:45 GMT -6
fuck. A kid at daycare tested positive over the weekend. The daycare provider couldn't confirm the person of course but said it was one of my son's good friends. fuckkkkk I just posted the MDH's rec. I think your kid needs to be tested and quarantine. I also *think* that you, your H and the babies don't need to until or unless you become symptomatic. eta: woof at the situation. I hope that it turns into nothing for you.
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Post by jaygee on Sept 21, 2020 8:51:15 GMT -6
I have an appointment with my sleep doctor and I’m nervous. I have sleep apnea and two years ago I lost enough weight that I could safely ditch my cpap with my doctor’s permission. I did but now I’ve gained enough weight back that I need it again. I convinced myself that I would just lose the weight and be fine. But I didn’t. And it’s a little of a catch 22 because I can’t really lose weight when I’m not getting good sleep. Anyways, I feel dumb and like a failure. So hopefully getting my cpap back is not too hard and I swear I’m not letting go of it this time even if I lose weight (which is what my PCP told me). You are neither dumb nor a failure. You are a beautiful sunflower who is doing what she needs to do to improve her health. Thank you, friend. I needed to hear that.
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Post by shadows on Sept 21, 2020 8:51:47 GMT -6
What is the accuracy rate of the Covid tests? My anecdote: MH was tested 3 times before he tested positive (and the third time was outside the quaratine period). He only got tested the last time because his parents wanted to visit for DS and DD1's birthdays, and we wanted to be extra sure. The only one of my kids who tested positive was DS, but the pediatrician said he felt confident that all three had it. DD2 was the only one who got sick, but just for a couple of days. Of course, our situation was different because we had known exposure, but I'm curious how many people are getting false negatives.
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Post by piratecat on Sept 21, 2020 8:52:24 GMT -6
That’s interesting that you need to self isolate for 10 days for cold symptoms, isn’t as what everybody was talking about when the kids started at school, and were outraged to think that they would have to isolate after every symptom? I just can’t see that as realistic as much as it is necessary. There is some middle ground though. Maybe isolating for 10 days for every cold symptom isn't feasible for everyone but staying home for a few days until your symptoms subside is also better than nothing. Or calling your doctor to see if you should/can get tested. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
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Post by brux on Sept 21, 2020 8:53:16 GMT -6
From all the weird assumed false negatives and assumed false positives, I feel like a test at this point is merely a means to avoid or reduce a 14 day isolation.
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Post by paperbagliz on Sept 21, 2020 8:53:43 GMT -6
You are neither dumb nor a failure. You are a beautiful sunflower who is doing what she needs to do to improve her health. Thank you, friend. I needed to hear that. The sleep doctor is there to help you solve the issues and get good rest. You’re not a failure. I understand how lack of sleep impacts everything else.
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Post by piratecat on Sept 21, 2020 8:54:24 GMT -6
Yes, I would think she would be cleared to go to work with a negative test. Here, a headache is on the list of symptoms of COVID that would exclude you from coming to work/school. A runny nose by itself is not, so not every sniffle would require you to quarantine or get tested. These are the CDC recommendations. I'm not a doctor or an epidemiologist, I don't make the rules. Yes, there are a million other reasons a person gets a headache. It sucks, it's a pandemic. Should have just +1 this. And of course, this is #regional, but my work symptom checker is very stringent. Pretty much any new generic illness symptom prompts a test and quarantine until the test result is available. But then they had my coworker come to work because he had a negative test, even though his wife was positive, so I don't even know, man. Yea our state CDC recommendation for isolating even with a negative test when you have known confirmed exposure is definitely more stringent and to still isolate as if you have it.
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Post by Pistol on Sept 21, 2020 8:55:41 GMT -6
fuck. A kid at daycare tested positive over the weekend. The daycare provider couldn't confirm the person of course but said it was one of my son's good friends. fuckkkkk I just posted the MDH's rec. I think your kid needs to be tested and quarantine. I also *think* that you, your H and the babies don't need to until or unless you become symptomatic. eta: woof at the situation. I hope that it turns into nothing for you. My state's recommendation is that being exposed to someone who was exposed but no symptoms does not need tested. If either the exposed or the person exposed to the exposed (exposed²? 🤣) begins to show symptoms then the last person should test and quarantine pending the results of a test. Its so confusing in a lot of ways. On one hand I feel like if someone in your house has been exposed and is quarantining then shouldn't everyone but also where does the need to test for second hand exposure stop? Its like dominoes. It just keeps going.
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Post by thatgolfb on Sept 21, 2020 8:55:47 GMT -6
What is the accuracy rate of the Covid tests? My anecdote: MH was tested 3 times before he tested positive (and the third time was outside the quaratine period). He only got tested the last time because his parents wanted to visit for DS and DD1's birthdays, and we wanted to be extra sure. The only one of my kids who tested positive was DS, but the pediatrician said he felt confident that all three had it. DD2 was the only one who got sick, but just for a couple of days. Of course, our situation was different because we had known exposure, but I'm curious how many people are getting false negatives. It varies widely, but false negatives are pretty common (I think the range is like 2% all the way up to 30%, something like that?). Much more common than false positives. It has a lot to do with the method of collection. It's easy to miss those particles with a swab, or have an issue with the transport media. It's possible it just hadn't incubated enough the first couple times to pick up the viral particles on the test. More likely, he just hadn't contracted it yet.
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Post by jaygee on Sept 21, 2020 8:56:00 GMT -6
That’s interesting that you need to self isolate for 10 days for cold symptoms, isn’t as what everybody was talking about when the kids started at school, and were outraged to think that they would have to isolate after every symptom? I just can’t see that as realistic as much as it is necessary. There is some middle ground though. Maybe isolating for 10 days for every cold symptom isn't feasible for everyone but staying home for a few days until your symptoms subside is also better than nothing. Or calling your doctor to see if you should/can get tested. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. I mean this is a anecdote but a couple weeks back when DS was having weird symptoms, this is what we did. We stopped having our social bubble kid over until he was fever free for 24 hours (agreement both families came to) and I called the doctor and they didn’t recommend a test at that time but told me what to watch for. At that point it was Friday and he was feeling better but we just stayed separated until Monday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 8:56:11 GMT -6
If I'm being honest, I don't really trust the tests a lot. I've known a couple people who tested negative but had very clear covid symptoms. Even earlier in the summer months when other viruses are less common.
Eta and then those people go back to daily life, even if they're still ill
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Post by piratecat on Sept 21, 2020 8:56:37 GMT -6
brux that is really helpful, thank you.
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Post by Tlex on Sept 21, 2020 8:56:46 GMT -6
H lined up at 6:30 am today with the baby and I met him there around 8 with the big girls, we all needed tests except D1 - sore throats, runny noses.
Fx for negatives and then we can return to school/daycare as soon as we’re 24 hours symptom free.
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Post by Minerva on Sept 21, 2020 8:57:18 GMT -6
You really need to talk to your doctor about getting a test. COVID19 presents as a cold in many people. You don’t want to be the person responsible for passing it on to someone who is higher risk for complications and mortality. During this pandemic, we are supposed to get screened by doctors or urgent care (assuming we have the means) for every little cold. It’s how we protect each other and stop the virus from spreading so quickly through the population. I agree with this. My brother had a positive test last weekend and is quarantined. He said any other year he wouldn’t have gone to the doctor for his mild symptoms (low grade fever, slight cough) but knew it was responsible to get tested. And he has it. I hope he’s feeling 100% very soon.
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Post by emma on Sept 21, 2020 8:57:22 GMT -6
We’re up and making an effort to start bike riding to before care agin. We rode all through summer to their camp program but we got out of the habit a month ago. I’m going to need to get some thin gloves to continue until snow Ice Breaker liner gloves are about $40 but so good - nice on their own or can go inside mittens if you’re playing or skiing. thanks, I’ll look for those. I recently developed a nice stress induced cold allergy so this mornings bike ride resulted is swollen fingers, lips and ears and hives over my thighs. I need a fleece balaclava and toaster suit apparently
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Post by thatgolfb on Sept 21, 2020 8:57:27 GMT -6
If I'm being honest, I don't really trust the tests a lot. I've known a couple people who tested negative but had very clear covid symptoms. Even earlier in the summer months when other viruses are less common. Eta and then those people go back to daily life, even if they're still ill Sigh.
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