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Post by origami on Aug 1, 2020 19:01:40 GMT -6
I also got the blood donor negative antibody test and was also kind of let down that it was negative...even though I was pretty sure it would be.
Now my goal is to be like that elderly woman who has donated something like 23 gallons of blood over her lifetime.
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Post by Pistol on Aug 1, 2020 19:10:10 GMT -6
We took the kids fishing today and on the way home, from what I could see, my grandma's party had a pretty big turnout. And it was raining so pretty sure everyone was inside. And did I mention my aunt and uncle were attending despite just getting home from a week in Florida?? Glad we skipped it, much to my mother's very vocal dismay.
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Post by nevertoomanyshoes on Aug 1, 2020 19:47:11 GMT -6
I means there’s only 90 schools in my state closed tomorrow due to positive cases, contact tracing and deep cleans but yeah totes fine. Good luck with all of that. I’m a bit jealous you ever hit phase 4 (phase 1 since March here) I’m very glad we had the good sense not to open schools since here since we can’t contain it. No clue what stage 4 means, we got as good as stage 2 lifting then it all went to hell so now stage 4.
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Post by notexactly on Aug 1, 2020 20:01:46 GMT -6
I was at Walmart two days ago and they had 8 oz pump bottles of Germ-X. I could not believe my eyes! I mean they have a shit ton of other smelly hand sanitizers, but this is the real deal, the OG hand sanitizer lol.
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Post by lunarscallion on Aug 1, 2020 20:25:41 GMT -6
Snapped this at the grocery store this week. This is the first time I’ve seen hand sanitizer in person in months and there were multiple displays with different kinds of it plus gloves and masks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 20:48:13 GMT -6
PDQ
We had another patient this week who tested COVID+ a month ago. Hospital policy is to consider them "COVID recovered" and not to test them, treating them as if they were negative. The nurse who had this patient didn't know that, swabbed her anyway, and it came back positive and became a huge thing. This has been happening rather frequently (that someone tested positive a month or more ago and tests positive again) and it's just disconcerting to me. I wonder if that's still considered an exposure or if they are still capable of spreading it. Also, no one at the hospital system I'm at ever bothers to wear a face shield 🤦♀️ surgical masks alone are the norm.
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Post by Pistol on Aug 1, 2020 20:55:24 GMT -6
peachesncream, last I had read the thought was that after 14 days the level of infectiousness dropped dramatically. IIRC. I'm curious to know if it is a continued positive or if the patient was reinfected (positive,, negative,, and back to positive) though.
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Post by Pistol on Aug 1, 2020 20:57:34 GMT -6
I read an article the other day that cardiologists are concerned about long term cardiovascular effects even if a patient is asthmatic. I wish I could find that article again or more information on that. With the heart problems in my family history, I admit that possible long term heart effects worries me as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 21:00:10 GMT -6
Pistol oh that's interesting! I need to read up more on it. I should have mentioned we only consider them "recovered" if they are currently asymptomatic - this particular patient was symptomatic a month ago and tested positive at that time, then was asymptomatic upon admission a few days ago and obviously tested positive again. I would think a month would be too brief of a time period for reinfection, but with COVID who the eff knows. We also have a fair number of patients who have their minds blown when their test comes back positive - it kind of makes me curious if they had minor symptoms a few weeks ago and thought nothing of it but are "recovered" now. Idk. This asymptomatic stuff is weird!
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Post by jaygee on Aug 1, 2020 21:01:28 GMT -6
Welp. My county officially goes back into further restrictions tomorrow. Gyms, salons, retail all closes. School will now have to open virtually unless we get off the list in 1 week. We have to be off the list for 14 days before they can go in person. Good job, everyone who lives in my county. Ugh. I feel badly for the businesses. But it’s the right thing to do.
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Post by PandaWatch on Aug 1, 2020 21:04:54 GMT -6
Welp. My county officially goes back into further restrictions tomorrow. Gyms, salons, retail all closes. School will now have to open virtually unless we get off the list in 1 week. We have to be off the list for 14 days before they can go in person. Good job, everyone who lives in my county. Ugh. I feel badly for the businesses. But it’s the right thing to do. Oof. I’m so sorry.
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Post by jaygee on Aug 1, 2020 21:45:14 GMT -6
Welp. My county officially goes back into further restrictions tomorrow. Gyms, salons, retail all closes. School will now have to open virtually unless we get off the list in 1 week. We have to be off the list for 14 days before they can go in person. Good job, everyone who lives in my county. Ugh. I feel badly for the businesses. But it’s the right thing to do. Oof. I’m so sorry. Oh. It’s ok. We knew it was coming. And short of one hair cut MH got, we haven’t utilized any of the reopened services. But I have friends who are local business owners and going backwards just sucks for them so hard. I wish people would act right and stop spreading it. I also wish we had better testing and contact tracing.
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Aug 2, 2020 9:10:45 GMT -6
I’m donating blood for the first time ever today. One part small way to help in Covid, one part curious about antibody testing. DH donated last month just for the antibody test. It was negative as expected. Same. I donated for the first time in years mid June to help, but also for the antibody test. I’m signed up in 2 weeks to donate again for the antibody test.
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Post by hawkward on Aug 2, 2020 9:21:21 GMT -6
The boys are Zooming with their Sunday school teacher. Our minister pointed out today it’s been 22 weeks since we’ve been in church. We only have exactly a year left here. My heart hurts today.
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Post by AnnPerkins on Aug 2, 2020 10:15:20 GMT -6
I donated Monday and got my antibody results yesterday. I was vaguely disappointed that they were negative. I’m signed up to give on Wednesday for the very first time. I’m assuming the antibodies will be negative, but I’m very curious. Hydrate. Hydrate. Hydrate. It makes a world of a difference. I mean, my body still immediately rejects the process*, but at least my blood was flowing smoothly and they only had to stick me once. *You'll probably be totally fine.
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Post by AnnPerkins on Aug 2, 2020 10:15:49 GMT -6
I also got the blood donor negative antibody test and was also kind of let down that it was negative...even though I was pretty sure it would be. Now my goal is to be like that elderly woman who has donated something like 23 gallons of blood over her lifetime. The plasma donors that know all the nurses by name are my favorite people.
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Post by origami on Aug 2, 2020 10:30:03 GMT -6
I’m signed up to give on Wednesday for the very first time. I’m assuming the antibodies will be negative, but I’m very curious. Hydrate. Hydrate. Hydrate. It makes a world of a difference. I mean, my body still immediately rejects the process*, but at least my blood was flowing smoothly and they only had to stick me once. *You'll probably be totally fine. Agree with hydrate and that you'll be fine. Before covid I hadn't donated since high school when I passed out and was nervous but I've gone twice now with no issues, but being fully hydrated before made the process a lot easier.
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Post by rvasc on Aug 2, 2020 11:33:24 GMT -6
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Post by Tlex on Aug 2, 2020 11:50:41 GMT -6
Hydrate. Hydrate. Hydrate. It makes a world of a difference. I mean, my body still immediately rejects the process*, but at least my blood was flowing smoothly and they only had to stick me once. *You'll probably be totally fine. Agree with hydrate and that you'll be fine. Before covid I hadn't donated since high school when I passed out and was nervous but I've gone twice now with no issues, but being fully hydrated before made the process a lot easier. I’m glad to read this! I blacked out really hard the one time I gave blood at 18, and I have always been bummed not to be a good donor. I shall try again!
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Post by ambiguousmango on Aug 2, 2020 12:35:00 GMT -6
Hand sanitizer was plentiful today at the grocery store and I was so excited! They didn't even have limits on how many you could get. So hopefully other places will get them in too.
I wish I could donate blood and even called the red cross to see if any restrictions had been lifted but no luck. Thank you to all who donate.
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Post by snowyowl on Aug 2, 2020 12:44:33 GMT -6
People on my town Facebook page are all up in arms about my state “faking the data”. Turns out when someone tests positive, they only include it in the positive is new. So someone who has Covid, then gets tested again and still has it, isn’t in the count.
I’m confused by the anger. Why would we include people in the positive test count if we already know they are sick? Am I missing something? I get how that data is useful for other reasons, but if I’m looking to see how many positive tests there are in a day, I would think including retesting sick people would be more misleading.
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Aug 2, 2020 12:59:21 GMT -6
Not just Riverside county. PDQ: At Doheney, There was a big group under 3 pop ups with a the big Jesus sign and arms in the air. A pop up church service on the sand with no masks and social distancing. FFS, at least take space on the lawn and spread out A-holes.
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Post by drr on Aug 2, 2020 13:24:10 GMT -6
People are testing positive up to and beyond 3 months after their initial positive test. The infectiousness decreases once symptoms appear and patients are considered not infectious 72 hours after acute symptoms started. The PCR test can pick up viral fragments way after the acute infection is gone and yield a "positive" test despite the patient no longer being acutely ill. This is why patients are being considered "recovered". I would not be concerned by this at all. PDQ- I was acutely ill with COVID in April and still test positive on the PCR test. My kid, who was acutely ill at the same time, just had his first negative PCR test this week (every antibody test of his has been positive). We only know this because of repeat testing of PCR and antibody tests.
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Post by jaygee on Aug 2, 2020 13:51:23 GMT -6
People on my town Facebook page are all up in arms about my state “faking the data”. Turns out when someone tests positive, they only include it in the positive is new. So someone who has Covid, then gets tested again and still has it, isn’t in the count. I’m confused by the anger. Why would we include people in the positive test count if we already know they are sick? Am I missing something? I get how that data is useful for other reasons, but if I’m looking to see how many positive tests there are in a day, I would think including retesting sick people would be more misleading. From a data perspective this is the correct way to handle it imo. Obviously it should be explained in the data set notes, but for the uses of this data net new positives is way more useful than total positives.
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Post by cmb on Aug 2, 2020 13:53:55 GMT -6
peachesncream our commissioner said the same thing to us SHD staff at our meeting last week that drr said. The PCRs are picking up fragments, so while they have recovered and no longer contagious, they still have a positive test.
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Post by thatgolfb on Aug 2, 2020 14:16:02 GMT -6
People on my town Facebook page are all up in arms about my state “faking the data”. Turns out when someone tests positive, they only include it in the positive is new. So someone who has Covid, then gets tested again and still has it, isn’t in the count. I’m confused by the anger. Why would we include people in the positive test count if we already know they are sick? Am I missing something? I get how that data is useful for other reasons, but if I’m looking to see how many positive tests there are in a day, I would think including retesting sick people would be more misleading. This is funny because all the outrage I have seen is that people think that all positive tests, including currently known positives, are being counted as new cases. The situation you mentioned is exactly how it should be done.
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Post by hawkward on Aug 2, 2020 14:22:59 GMT -6
Oh that’s interesting, drr.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 14:27:08 GMT -6
cmb and drr that's super interesting! I wonder why that's not true of other viral tests like influenza/RSV/other coronaviruses. Maybe they've had time to hone threshholds, or maybe those are ELISA based rather than PCR? I feel bad for all the people stuck in limbo inpatient waiting for a negative test to transfer to long term care - we have some patients who have sat for a month or longer.
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Post by drr on Aug 2, 2020 14:45:18 GMT -6
hawkward,it's super interesting!! peachesncream, part of it is we don't continue to test people for RSV/ILI/HMP using the PCR tests after their acute infection so it could happen with those tests too This is a big reason why the shift has moved away from negative tests for returning to work/moving patients etc. There is still a lot of work to be done, but most of the work coming out indicate infectiousness decreases from symptom onset and testing positive after acute illness has no bearing on infectiousness
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Post by hawkward on Aug 2, 2020 15:06:34 GMT -6
drr Now I want to get H tested again to see if he’s still +. He was acutely I’ll in the same time frame. I also wish we’d have tested the boys for active virus instead of just antibodies. I wanted to re-test DS2 but I didn’t want to traumatize him all over again just for my own curiosity. I’m happy I’m not in a clinical setting now but also limited access to the information coming out is frustrating. Are you doing antibody tests as well? ETA let me know if you want me to poof anything that pertains to you and your family’s health.
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