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Post by Jesslfar on Jul 18, 2020 14:05:17 GMT -6
I'm constantly shocked at how much they do knowing they are being filmed. I watched a lot of last night's footage and they very much did not hide them working together at all. It's so crazy making. Like footage a few weeks ago of a cop hitting a journalist point blank with a rubber bullet and the next day saying"I was provoked" YOU'RE ON VIDEO YOU ASSHOLE WE SAW YOU DO IT FOR FUN Did you see the one where they sprayed the one journalist for filming? That was a full month ago, they know nothing will happen no matter how much footage they have.
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Post by Jesslfar on Jul 18, 2020 14:16:48 GMT -6
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Post by Jesslfar on Jul 18, 2020 14:20:48 GMT -6
This is commissioner Hardesty writing about last night.
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Post by origami on Jul 18, 2020 17:14:18 GMT -6
This is commissioner Hardesty writing about last night. It's about goddamn time. I like Joann a lot. It going on two months it would have been nice if she did this a month ago
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Post by Jesslfar on Jul 19, 2020 8:12:17 GMT -6
A sign from last night.
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Post by Jesslfar on Jul 19, 2020 11:04:42 GMT -6
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Post by jkjacq on Jul 20, 2020 12:53:54 GMT -6
The Vet who had his hand broken by the Feds over the weekend just said its going to require surgery to repair.
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Post by Jesslfar on Jul 20, 2020 14:20:58 GMT -6
The Vet who had his hand broken by the Feds over the weekend just said its going to require surgery to repair. He's done a few articles and discussed it in his twitter feed. He's in his 50's and was talking to them when the agents reacted, he wasn't breaking any laws or resisting.
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Post by cakewench on Jul 20, 2020 14:22:45 GMT -6
YUP.
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Post by dc2london on Jul 20, 2020 14:24:45 GMT -6
for real which of these authoritarian red flags will finally get people to wake the fuck up
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Post by Jesslfar on Jul 20, 2020 14:37:52 GMT -6
For the last two nights moms have shown up. They gassed them and pointed guns at them. Tonight they will be back in larger numbers and dads with leaf blowers wearing orange will join the moms in yellow.
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Post by Jesslfar on Jul 20, 2020 14:38:55 GMT -6
for real which of these authoritarian red flags will finally get people to wake the fuck up I can't understand why more people outside of Portland aren't outraged at secret police shoving people in minivans.
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Post by jkjacq on Jul 20, 2020 14:57:12 GMT -6
for real which of these authoritarian red flags will finally get people to wake the fuck up I can't understand why more people outside of Portland aren't outraged at secret police shoving people in minivans. According to my father, its fine because those people are rioting and vandalizing.
So yeah.
that ended up in further screaming at him and me hanging up on him.
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Post by Jesslfar on Jul 20, 2020 16:02:11 GMT -6
I can't understand why more people outside of Portland aren't outraged at secret police shoving people in minivans. According to my father, its fine because those people are rioting and vandalizing.
So yeah.
that ended up in further screaming at him and me hanging up on him.
It's one federal building and one police union. The homes and businesses near them are just fine. Everyone thinks Portland is some burned down city with looting that lost $23 million to looting when it turns out a mall closed for Covid is where all that reported lost income went. Trump is testing the water with Portland and if Chicago and NY don't place nice real fast they are also going to get secret police to come help them with graffiti.
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Post by Foxy on Jul 20, 2020 16:04:21 GMT -6
If this doesn't scream handmaid's tale I don't know what does.
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Post by athn64 on Jul 20, 2020 17:02:02 GMT -6
I can't understand why more people outside of Portland aren't outraged at secret police shoving people in minivans. According to my father, its fine because those people are rioting and vandalizing.
So yeah.
that ended up in further screaming at him and me hanging up on him.
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Post by LaRo422 on Jul 21, 2020 3:29:30 GMT -6
for real which of these authoritarian red flags will finally get people to wake the fuck up I can't understand why more people outside of Portland aren't outraged at secret police shoving people in minivans. Forgive me if the answer to this isn’t obvious, but what can we do? Sadly, I didn’t start following politics until a few years ago, so outside of the phone calls and contact I’ve made to my reps, I’m kind of clueless. I was raised that it was something people, women especially, don’t talk about. Gotta love a good ole southern upbringing. I’ve been talking about it to DH, but that’s about it. Pretty much everyone else I know is conservative, and they’re the ones who think this is necessary because they think protestors are “thugs”. Cue the eye roll.
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Post by blurnette989 on Jul 21, 2020 4:20:32 GMT -6
LaRo422, I don't think its an unfair question, because this is really hard. The checks and balances that are meant to keep the president in line are not working right now. Basically we are seeing just how fragile democracy is. Lots of people who should care about democracy are showing they care more about personal power and wealth. As a citizen, I am at a loss too for more ways to make an impact. Telling your congresspeople and senators that this is wrong, illegal, immoral and that it is their duty to stand up to the president is still important. They will NEVER do anything if they do not hear from constituents. So even if it seems futile, it is worth it to call/write and then remind them again if Trump really does send CBP to Chicago. We have to put the pressure on. You can also just keep talking about it to people. If the media won't raise awareness you can help. If you frame it differently like the fact that a bunch of moms demand action women protested in Portland- it shows it isn't the "thugs" they think it is. Talk about the veteran who had his hand broken by these forces. Etc.
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Post by LaRo422 on Jul 21, 2020 5:09:39 GMT -6
blurnette989 thank you for the info. I live in Georgia, so we’ve got politicians like Kemp, and my rep, Doug Collins. It’s so frustrating how little of a shit these people give, and how many in my state support them. I kind of got into it with someone in my family about the moms in Portland and their response was that they knew the danger they were facing when they went there, and if they support a “terrorist” movement like BLM, they deserved what they got. They said the same about the Navy vet that had his hand broken. I don’t even know what to do with that. I talk to DH and my kids about it, especially my boys. They’re 15 and almost 14. Listening to them talk and engage gives me hope for the future. I just don’t want to be like my parents (in that they kind of forced their opinions on me). They didn’t talk politics growing up and everything was focused on religion. I distinctly remember my mom telling us while grocery shopping that “we don’t buy kraft products because they support the gay people” 🙄. I don’t know if she’s still anti kraft, but she’s definitely homophobic. She wouldn’t even listen to me when I tried to tell her that homosexuality being a sin isn’t even in the Bible, and the passages she thought spoke out against it were actually changed by conservatives some years ago. I’m the only liberal in my family, so I’m sure she’s wondering where they went wrong raising me lol
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Post by cakewench on Jul 21, 2020 6:25:25 GMT -6
I saw something on FB last night that said something along the lines of "The Constitution was prepared for a president like this. The Constitution was not prepared for a Congress to do nothing to stop him".
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Post by blurnette989 on Jul 21, 2020 6:39:43 GMT -6
Ugh LaRo422 having grown up in the south and a military I'm all too familiar with what you describe. Hugs. Just being honest and teaching yours boys to love is a huge step in the right direction. Letting them know they matter and can discuss all viewpoints with you will go a long way.
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Post by Jesslfar on Jul 21, 2020 7:42:52 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Jul 21, 2020 8:22:57 GMT -6
I saw something on FB last night that said something along the lines of "The Constitution was prepared for a president like this. The Constitution was not prepared for a Congress to do nothing to stop him". This is an excellent quote. I'm still getting used to having Chris Murphy as my senator after long years in NC with fucking Tillis and the like. Everytime I go to ask him to do something, he's already done it lol. But thanking them is good too! And pushing them to keep being loud. Blumenthal is a big ol sweetie too. You guys have some really awesome elected officials in CT. Always remember that the people who are mad ALWAYS call. The people who are happy usually don't. And they take call for call tallies of the feedback they get. Also the gun nuts loathe Chris Murphy and are incredibly gross toward him.
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Post by dc2london on Jul 21, 2020 8:28:16 GMT -6
I'm sorry if I sound preachy when I say that. I just hear it over and over from Hill staffers.
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Post by Foxy on Jul 21, 2020 8:49:20 GMT -6
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Post by byjove on Jul 21, 2020 8:51:44 GMT -6
for real which of these authoritarian red flags will finally get people to wake the fuck up So many freaking alarm balls. I start to panic when I check the news.
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Post by origami on Jul 21, 2020 9:18:56 GMT -6
thousands showed up last night including some of my colleagues. I also have a few friends that have been out every night since the beginning, but last night felt like a turning point. People are pissed and not going to take it lying down
I drove by the justice center yesterday as I randomly had to be down there and it really is just like one square block of graffiti. There are a handful of boarded up buildings in the surrounding blocks but a lot of that is leftover from the first night back in May since not much has really reopened yet. But it really is just one building on one block in a city metro of millions.
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Post by origami on Jul 21, 2020 9:21:43 GMT -6
and to answer a previous question, the feds did gas the crowd again last night. Dozens of flashbangs and impact munitions.
Haven't heard injury reports yet but the crowd keeps coming back after dispersal so I imagine it will stay violent for a while until the feds back off.
And by violent I mean law enforcement will still become violent unprovoked at a large crowd of people singing and chanting and the errant thrown water bottle.
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