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Post by chrispy1122 on Aug 2, 2021 8:01:37 GMT -6
I’ve been emailing our superintendent and the principals of the schools my kids attend. My work just updated our mask policy to be more stringent. It is just so crazy to me that schools aren’t requiring masks for kids under 12. I’m at the point now that I’m not even pushing for mandatory masks school wide—just having mask required and mask optional classrooms at the elementary school and requiring masks in shared spaces.
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Post by betty on Aug 2, 2021 9:44:51 GMT -6
The superintendent emailed me back and refuses to acknowledge that masks on school buses is a requirement. Even with documented proof from the ODH and CDC. At this point, he’s just gaslighting me. “ The ODH has not provided any guidance on mask wearing other than stating what the CDC has stated.”
So I called the county health dept and they said they were aware of my district refusing but that they can’t enforce it and I’d need to call the local TSA. They didn’t have a phone number for me and the only one I can find online is the main one that gets me no where. I asked the local HD if they’d at least call the school to confirm it’s a federal requirement and they said the schools are well aware but they know it can’t be enforced. My head is going to explode. Now I’m waiting on ODH to call me back.
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Post by Pistol on Aug 2, 2021 10:03:10 GMT -6
The superintendent emailed me back and refuses to acknowledge that masks on school buses is a requirement. Even with documented proof from the ODH and CDC. At this point, he’s just gaslighting me. “ The ODH has not provided any guidance on mask wearing other than stating what the CDC has stated.” So I called the county health dept and they said they were aware of my district refusing but that they can’t enforce it and I’d need to call the local TSA. They didn’t have a phone number for me and the only one I can find online is the main one that gets me no where. I asked the local HD if they’d at least call the school to confirm it’s a federal requirement and they said the schools are well aware but they know it can’t be enforced. My head is going to explode. Now I’m waiting on ODH to call me back. What is TSA? Cause all I can think of is like airport security people lol
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Post by zoeylucy on Aug 2, 2021 10:15:48 GMT -6
Work just reinstated full mask policy regardless of vaccination status
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Post by angelashly on Aug 2, 2021 10:29:23 GMT -6
Work just reinstated full mask policy regardless of vaccination status You are on a campus still right?
I wonder if we will be next.
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Post by zoeylucy on Aug 2, 2021 10:40:41 GMT -6
Work just reinstated full mask policy regardless of vaccination status You are on a campus still right?
I wonder if we will be next.
Yes. I work 50% from my company’s main office compound, and 50% from home.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 2, 2021 10:43:53 GMT -6
You are on a campus still right?
I wonder if we will be next.
Yes. I work 50% from my company’s main office compound, and 50% from home. I want this set up :::sobs:::
I am headed back into a no mask mandate, no distancing mandate campus in 2 weeks
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Post by betty on Aug 2, 2021 10:49:35 GMT -6
The superintendent emailed me back and refuses to acknowledge that masks on school buses is a requirement. Even with documented proof from the ODH and CDC. At this point, he’s just gaslighting me. “ The ODH has not provided any guidance on mask wearing other than stating what the CDC has stated.” So I called the county health dept and they said they were aware of my district refusing but that they can’t enforce it and I’d need to call the local TSA. They didn’t have a phone number for me and the only one I can find online is the main one that gets me no where. I asked the local HD if they’d at least call the school to confirm it’s a federal requirement and they said the schools are well aware but they know it can’t be enforced. My head is going to explode. Now I’m waiting on ODH to call me back. What is TSA? Cause all I can think of is like airport security people lol Yep, transportation safety.
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Post by betty on Aug 2, 2021 10:52:02 GMT -6
Work just reinstated full mask policy regardless of vaccination status My boss just told me today that my company is going to do the same if cases in our county are higher than 14 per 100k. The document they sent her says we’re currently at 6. However I looked at ODH and CDC and our county is at 76.9. So I’m not sure how there’s such a big disconnect.
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Post by mrsweasley on Aug 2, 2021 11:28:05 GMT -6
Work just reinstated full mask policy regardless of vaccination status My boss just told me today that my company is going to do the same if cases in our county are higher than 14 per 100k. The document they sent her says we’re currently at 6. However I looked at ODH and CDC and our county is at 76.9. So I’m not sure how there’s such a big disconnect. Are you sure ODH/CDC isn't listing total cases and not per capita?
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Post by mrsweasley on Aug 2, 2021 11:31:41 GMT -6
betty do you have a commercial airport nearby? Or maybe even just one in the state (Dayton, Columbus, Cleveland, or maybe even Cinci even though it's in KY) could point you in the right direction
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Post by betty on Aug 2, 2021 12:06:18 GMT -6
My boss just told me today that my company is going to do the same if cases in our county are higher than 14 per 100k. The document they sent her says we’re currently at 6. However I looked at ODH and CDC and our county is at 76.9. So I’m not sure how there’s such a big disconnect. Are you sure ODH/CDC isn't listing total cases and not per capita? It specifically says cases per 100k so i think the company info is wrong. It was just a PowerPoint.
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Post by betty on Aug 2, 2021 12:07:38 GMT -6
betty do you have a commercial airport nearby? Or maybe even just one in the state (Dayton, Columbus, Cleveland, or maybe even Cinci even though it's in KY) could point you in the right direction That might be my next step. And calling Sherrod Brown. I have a few connections in healthcare and at different health depts who are trying to find info for me.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 2, 2021 12:09:12 GMT -6
Our campus is requiring flu shots now. They always did for the medical part, but not the academic, but it is universal now.
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Post by frantastic on Aug 2, 2021 12:40:05 GMT -6
Work just reinstated full mask policy regardless of vaccination status You are on a campus still right?
I wonder if we will be next.
We just got an email about required masks on campus, regardless of vax, so I assume all other schools* will follow. *ETA by schools I mean colleges/universities.
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Post by chrispy1122 on Aug 2, 2021 13:02:26 GMT -6
Can I ask a dumb question? Is delta more severe than COVID? I’m really fired up about school not requiring masks and I’m starting to look into private schools. My husband thinks I’ve lost my mind. I realized today that my kids have been home for 1.5 years anyway and are going to need to make all new friends. Maybe we’ll just go private, sell our house, and move closer to my work.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 2, 2021 13:11:53 GMT -6
Can I ask a dumb question? Is delta more severe than COVID? I’m really fired up about school not requiring masks and I’m starting to look into private schools. My husband thinks I’ve lost my mind. I realized today that my kids have been home for 1.5 years anyway and are going to need to make all new friends. Maybe we’ll just go private, sell our house, and move closer to my work. CDC is saying yes it is more severe than the original strain, BUT those that are vaccinated and catching it are not showing severe symptoms.
My FIL went down hill fast. Even his nurse told me the night we took him off the vent and he passed almost instantly that those that are coming in to the hospitals now are way more sick.
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Post by chrispy1122 on Aug 2, 2021 13:19:01 GMT -6
Can I ask a dumb question? Is delta more severe than COVID? I’m really fired up about school not requiring masks and I’m starting to look into private schools. My husband thinks I’ve lost my mind. I realized today that my kids have been home for 1.5 years anyway and are going to need to make all new friends. Maybe we’ll just go private, sell our house, and move closer to my work. CDC is saying yes it is more severe than the original strain, BUT those that are vaccinated and catching it are not showing severe symptoms.
My FIL went down hill fast. Even his nurse told me the night we took him off the vent and he passed almost instantly that those that are coming in to the hospitals now are way more sick.
Oh no, I’m so sorry about your FIL. Thank you for sharing that with me. I was talking to someone at work and they looked at me like I had two heads when I said how upset I am about the lack of mask mandates in elementary schools. They were like, but kids don’t get it and delta isn’t as bad as COVID. My understanding had been what you said about those who are vaccinated being spared severe cases. When I was looking I saw where CDC said it was more contagious, but I wasn’t finding whether it was more severe or if there isn’t enough data to conclude either way.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 2, 2021 13:24:26 GMT -6
CDC is saying yes it is more severe than the original strain, BUT those that are vaccinated and catching it are not showing severe symptoms.
My FIL went down hill fast. Even his nurse told me the night we took him off the vent and he passed almost instantly that those that are coming in to the hospitals now are way more sick.
Oh no, I’m so sorry about your FIL. Thank you for sharing that with me. I was talking to someone at work and they looked at me like I had two heads when I said how upset I am about the lack of mask mandates in elementary schools. They were like, but kids don’t get it and delta isn’t as bad as COVID. My understanding had been what you said about those who are vaccinated being spared severe cases. When I was looking I saw where CDC said it was more contagious, but I wasn’t finding whether it was more severe or if there isn’t enough data to conclude either way. My mother in law is vaccinated and got it. She had a "cold" for about a week with it. My FIL who was not though had very severe symptoms. He got his first symptom on Tuesday night. By the next Tuesday he was in the ER with Covid Pneumonia.
I will say that my dd showed symptoms that Wednesday and she was down for a day feeling weak and had a stuffy nose and slight cough. Thursday-Saturday it was just the nose and cough and by Sunday she was symptom free. It still doesn't make me feel better because I've seen other kids who have gotten it around here be down for weeks.
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Post by zoeylucy on Aug 2, 2021 13:42:04 GMT -6
You are on a campus still right?
I wonder if we will be next.
We just got an email about required masks on campus, regardless of vax, so I assume all other schools* will follow. *ETA by schools I mean colleges/universities. I took campus to mean office complex. I don’t work in academia, but frantastic knows where, I think.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 2, 2021 13:57:46 GMT -6
We just got an email about required masks on campus, regardless of vax, so I assume all other schools* will follow. *ETA by schools I mean colleges/universities. I took campus to mean office complex. I don’t work in academia, but frantastic knows where, I think. Oh yeah I mean anywhere honestly.
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Post by NamasteBirches on Aug 2, 2021 14:01:43 GMT -6
Masks are required on school buses in my district. I'm driving DS this year but I'm sure people will bitch.
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Post by NamasteBirches on Aug 2, 2021 14:06:28 GMT -6
If your kid is going in person this year, are you asking teachers if they are vaccinated?
Earlier, the superintendent just said they can't mandate vaccines but encourage so who knows who's actually vaxxed.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 2, 2021 14:08:21 GMT -6
If your kid is going in person this year, are you asking teachers if they are vaccinated? Earlier, the superintendent just said they can't mandate vaccines but encourage so who knows who's actually vaxxed. Nobody in Ohio can mandate vaccines right now since they are still emergency use I believe.
I am lucky in that many pictures of teachers getting vaccinated were shared by our district, but no I am not asking. I can't ask my students where I work either.
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Post by NamasteBirches on Aug 2, 2021 14:10:35 GMT -6
If your kid is going in person this year, are you asking teachers if they are vaccinated? Earlier, the superintendent just said they can't mandate vaccines but encourage so who knows who's actually vaxxed. Nobody in Ohio can mandate vaccines right now since they are still emergency use I believe.
I am lucky in that many pictures of teachers getting vaccinated were shared by our district, but no I am not asking. I can't ask my students where I work either.
DH's job mandated vaccinations. I would just feel super uncomfortable if any of his teachers weren't vaxxed or wearing masks.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 2, 2021 14:12:14 GMT -6
Nobody in Ohio can mandate vaccines right now since they are still emergency use I believe.
I am lucky in that many pictures of teachers getting vaccinated were shared by our district, but no I am not asking. I can't ask my students where I work either.
DH's job mandated vaccinations. I would just feel super uncomfortable if any of his teachers weren't vaxxed or wearing masks. I wonder how they did that? I am glad some places are getting to mandate
I don't know if legally you can ask or find out about the vaccination status of teachers. You can try the principal.
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Post by NamasteBirches on Aug 2, 2021 14:12:32 GMT -6
Cuyahoga County has "substantial" transmission now. Awesome.
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Post by NamasteBirches on Aug 2, 2021 14:13:59 GMT -6
DH's job mandated vaccinations. I would just feel super uncomfortable if any of his teachers weren't vaxxed or wearing masks. I wonder how they did that? I am glad some places are getting to mandate
I don't know if legally you can ask or find out about the vaccination status of teachers. You can try the principal.
it's a small company. They kept track of everyone's vax cards & kept a list. Basically said if you don't do it, you're getting fired. No one protested enough to see what would happen if they didn't get vaxxed so at least that.
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Post by angelashly on Aug 2, 2021 15:12:09 GMT -6
We are 100% back on campus as of today and even had a welcome back picnic 🤦♀️ There's been talk of a telecommuting but nothing conclusive yet and its stressing me the fuck out. Fall semester is supposed to start like business as usual, but our county is already at substantial level according to the CDC map. I am back in 2 weeks. Our orientation that is open to 400 students and then us staff and faculty is going on as planned August 26th no distancing and no masks required. I am not sure what I am hoping for but I guess glad we work with college students who I am hoping are at least half vaccinated. My boss is firmly in the science is telling her we are good to go with vaccines (she is a scientist) and I am just ok, but can I still keep kids out of my office.
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Post by betty on Aug 2, 2021 15:13:36 GMT -6
So I found out a Facebook friend’s DH works at the county health department. He said they were told at 2:00 today at masks will be required in the office starting tomorrow and that our county is now red. So if our health department is quietly worried, that confirms it for me. She sent me a link to the cdc map, but it has us as orange. Maybe it’s not updated yet?
He also said that the county health depts cannot issue mask mandates, they can only enforce them if the state issues one, and we all know that most likely won’t happen. However, that’s separate from the bus issue which has been confirmed to be a federal law. We just have assholes thinking they’re above the law.
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