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Post by blurnette989 on Jan 17, 2020 12:11:21 GMT -6
🤣🤣 Trump is pushing a conspiracy theory that impeachment proceedings are specifically designed to keep Bernie of the campaign trail. All to suppress the Bernie vote and to give Biden an edge. WTF? Why Bernie specifically? Warren and Klobuchar are also needed back for proceeedings? Well... They have vulvas, so that basically cancels them out.
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Post by jkjacq on Jan 17, 2020 12:20:03 GMT -6
🤣🤣 Trump is pushing a conspiracy theory that impeachment proceedings are specifically designed to keep Bernie of the campaign trail. All to suppress the Bernie vote and to give Biden an edge. WTF? Why Bernie specifically? Warren and Klobuchar are also needed back for proceeedings? As were Booker and Harris
Also Michael Bennet... sitting senator currently running
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Post by starbuck on Jan 17, 2020 12:35:47 GMT -6
You can't stir up the bros talking about how the female senatorial candidates are also being disadvantaged on the trail.
Also, the narrative of Nancy orchestrating it all is part of it. Men's rights blah blah.
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Post by jaygee on Jan 17, 2020 12:37:06 GMT -6
🤣🤣 Trump is pushing a conspiracy theory that impeachment proceedings are specifically designed to keep Bernie of the campaign trail. All to suppress the Bernie vote and to give Biden an edge. So this makes me wonder if in 2016 his campaign had dirt on Bernie they didn't use because he wasn't the nominee. And they want him to be the nominee this time so they can drop it and win. Someone adjust my tin foil hat? I don’t even call it tin foil. I absolutely believe this to be true. See also he is pushing this for Bernie specifically because it opens up fresh wounds of division in the Democratic Party over Bernie being unfairly treated by the DNC in 2015/16.
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Post by athn64 on Jan 17, 2020 12:38:40 GMT -6
WTF? Why Bernie specifically? Warren and Klobuchar are also needed back for proceeedings? As were Booker and Harris
Also Michael Bennet... sitting senator currently running
I completely forgot about Bennet-chet.
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Post by punker1212 on Jan 17, 2020 13:06:53 GMT -6
So this makes me wonder if in 2016 his campaign had dirt on Bernie they didn't use because he wasn't the nominee. And they want him to be the nominee this time so they can drop it and win. Someone adjust my tin foil hat? I don’t even call it tin foil. I absolutely believe this to be true. See also he is pushing this for Bernie specifically because it opens up fresh wounds of division in the Democratic Party over Bernie being unfairly treated by the DNC in 2015/16. I think he would consider crazy Bernie an easy target because socialism. And I’ve seen some trolls on SM saying they’re voting Bernie in the primary and Trump in the general.
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Post by honeylemon on Jan 17, 2020 15:08:35 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Jan 17, 2020 16:43:35 GMT -6
🤣🤣 Trump is pushing a conspiracy theory that impeachment proceedings are specifically designed to keep Bernie of the campaign trail. All to suppress the Bernie vote and to give Biden an edge. So this makes me wonder if in 2016 his campaign had dirt on Bernie they didn't use because he wasn't the nominee. And they want him to be the nominee this time so they can drop it and win. Someone adjust my tin foil hat? I think it's more that 2016 showed some Sanders supporters are ride or die and is trying to make them hate the Democratic party (more)
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Post by PandaWatch on Jan 17, 2020 20:13:23 GMT -6
Have you taken this quiz? I mean take it with a grain of salt as with everything. Apologies if this was already posted. I don't have a WaPo subscription anymore but I was able to take it through Apple News or Twitter or something... www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/quiz-which-candidate-agrees-with-me/Warren agrees most with me (I think 16/20), Sanders next and very close behind (14/20). I was not surprised to see Pete doesn't agree with me very much. I WAS surprised to see that Biden agrees with me the LEAST. We only agree on 4 out of 20 issues. My top 3 are Steyer, Warren and Gabbard. Am I broken?
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Post by dc2london on Jan 18, 2020 11:42:14 GMT -6
Have you taken this quiz? I mean take it with a grain of salt as with everything. Apologies if this was already posted. I don't have a WaPo subscription anymore but I was able to take it through Apple News or Twitter or something... www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/quiz-which-candidate-agrees-with-me/Warren agrees most with me (I think 16/20), Sanders next and very close behind (14/20). I was not surprised to see Pete doesn't agree with me very much. I WAS surprised to see that Biden agrees with me the LEAST. We only agree on 4 out of 20 issues. My top 3 are Steyer, Warren and Gabbard. Am I broken? I think you might be. Try turning yourself off then turning yourself on again.
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Post by PandaWatch on Jan 18, 2020 11:51:45 GMT -6
My top 3 are Steyer, Warren and Gabbard. Am I broken? I think you might be. Try turning yourself off then turning yourself on again. Lol. I just retook it and for the questions I was on the fence about last time, I picked the opposite answer. My top 3 are now Warren, Steyer and Bloomberg. I’m definitely broken.
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Post by PandaWatch on Jan 18, 2020 11:53:50 GMT -6
This just keep running through my head:
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Post by AmyG on Jan 18, 2020 13:40:49 GMT -6
I dont think anyone aside from Biden, Warren Buttigieg and Sanders will be on the ticket for much longer after first primaries. I could be wrong of course. Of those on the quiz I got Buttigieg, Biden then Warren and then Sanders. Klobichar and bloomberg are right after buttigieg otherwise and sanders is about dead last.
Interesting things from taking the quiz.
I dont think we should wipe all college loans because people still owe something for what they got out of college. Nothing is free. Moving forward after reducing debt we need cheaper college but im not sure how to do that.
I dont think we can get rid of all insurance plans cause it will put too many people out of work from that industry. Phase in more coverage for younger and poorer people Medicaid etc. Lower age for medicare. Get them to meet in the middle. Allow insurance to continue for years, but not sure how to make that work. But cant do a full hard stop of insurance being a thing.
I dont believe we should frack, but maybe theres something i dont know about how to do it safer.
I dont think we can phase out nuclear. We need to not compare disaster at fukashima to say the serious safety protocols at palo verde that make it a very safe nuclear power plant. Its the largest in the us. We cannot replace the amount of power palo verde produces in any way that is safer for our envirmonment. When a nuclear plant is closed a coal plant seems to always replace it.
Even solar has the negatives of finding digging up and transporting the metals from china etc needed to make the batteries to store solar power.
I dont think we need more supreme court justices. I dont think more is a fix. How they are appointed by a president to do his bidding is a bigger problem than how many. Maybe a president only gets to appoint 1 per term?
Small businesses will ve killed by 12 weeks paid leave if they have to pay the wages while also filling the persons job. Figuring out how to make that work maybe short term disability by feds. But how to pay.
gosh our debt is already so high. Its un-pay-off-able in our lifetimes.
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Post by PandaWatch on Jan 18, 2020 14:43:32 GMT -6
I dont think anyone aside from Biden, Warren Buttigieg and Sanders will be on the ticket for much longer after first primaries. I could be wrong of course. Of those on the quiz I got Buttigieg, Biden then Warren and then Sanders. Klobichar and bloomberg are right after buttigieg otherwise and sanders is about dead last. Interesting things from taking the quiz. I dont think we should wipe all college loans because people still owe something for what they got out of college. Nothing is free. Moving forward after reducing debt we need cheaper college but im not sure how to do that. I dont think we can get rid of all insurance plans cause it will put too many people out of work from that industry. Phase in more coverage for younger and poorer people Medicaid etc. Lower age for medicare. Get them to meet in the middle. Allow insurance to continue for years, but not sure how to make that work. But cant do a full hard stop of insurance being a thing. I dont believe we should frack, but maybe theres something i dont know about how to do it safer. I dont think we can phase out nuclear. We need to not compare disaster at fukashima to say the serious safety protocols at palo verde that make it a very safe nuclear power plant. Its the largest in the us. We cannot replace the amount of power palo verde produces in any way that is safer for our envirmonment. When a nuclear plant is closed a coal plant seems to always replace it. Even solar has the negatives of finding digging up and transporting the metals from china etc needed to make the batteries to store solar power. I dont think we need more supreme court justices. I dont think more is a fix. How they are appointed by a president to do his bidding is a bigger problem than how many. Maybe a president only gets to appoint 1 per term? Small businesses will ve killed by 12 weeks paid leave if they have to pay the wages while also filling the persons job. Figuring out how to make that work maybe short term disability by feds. But how to pay. gosh our debt is already so high. Its un-pay-off-able in our lifetimes. I agree with the bolded. Student loans should not be cancelled for everyone. There are plenty of people for whom their student loans are affordable. They should pay those back. We should cancel student loans for those that took out loans and didn’t complete their program/degree and those that are below a certain income.
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Post by coconutbacon on Jan 18, 2020 14:58:39 GMT -6
I dont think anyone aside from Biden, Warren Buttigieg and Sanders will be on the ticket for much longer after first primaries. I could be wrong of course. Of those on the quiz I got Buttigieg, Biden then Warren and then Sanders. Klobichar and bloomberg are right after buttigieg otherwise and sanders is about dead last. Interesting things from taking the quiz. I dont think we should wipe all college loans because people still owe something for what they got out of college. Nothing is free. Moving forward after reducing debt we need cheaper college but im not sure how to do that. I dont think we can get rid of all insurance plans cause it will put too many people out of work from that industry. Phase in more coverage for younger and poorer people Medicaid etc. Lower age for medicare. Get them to meet in the middle. Allow insurance to continue for years, but not sure how to make that work. But cant do a full hard stop of insurance being a thing. I dont believe we should frack, but maybe theres something i dont know about how to do it safer. I dont think we can phase out nuclear. We need to not compare disaster at fukashima to say the serious safety protocols at palo verde that make it a very safe nuclear power plant. Its the largest in the us. We cannot replace the amount of power palo verde produces in any way that is safer for our envirmonment. When a nuclear plant is closed a coal plant seems to always replace it. Even solar has the negatives of finding digging up and transporting the metals from china etc needed to make the batteries to store solar power. I dont think we need more supreme court justices. I dont think more is a fix. How they are appointed by a president to do his bidding is a bigger problem than how many. Maybe a president only gets to appoint 1 per term? Small businesses will ve killed by 12 weeks paid leave if they have to pay the wages while also filling the persons job. Figuring out how to make that work maybe short term disability by feds. But how to pay. gosh our debt is already so high. Its un-pay-off-able in our lifetimes. Re: paid family leave, and how it’s paid for, NY State has paid family leave— most workers here are now guaranteed 60% of their salary, capped at $840.70/ week for 12 weeks. It’s funded by employees through a payroll deduction (which is based on income but maxes out at a little under $200/yr). The employer is not double paying for a temp and the regular worker. The money comes from the pool of money coming from all workers in the state.
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Post by jaygee on Jan 18, 2020 19:11:03 GMT -6
I agree with most of that but the 12 week paid family leave is a hill for me. I really think it should be longer. But I don’t think companies should have to pay all or most of it. I think government should.
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Post by jaygee on Jan 18, 2020 19:14:02 GMT -6
And free college is not on my priority agenda. Affordable college is. And fixing pre-K-12 to make it 1) equal across race and socioeconomic groups and 2) good enough to get a job with. I feel if we give free college but don’t address education quality before that, it’s just white middle and upper class continuing to get further ahead.
::pours one out for Kamala’s education policies::
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Post by athn64 on Jan 18, 2020 19:26:02 GMT -6
I mean, we're the only developed country without mandated paid family leave. So obviously it can be done. The fact that we don't already have it is ridiculous.
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Post by athn64 on Jan 18, 2020 19:26:52 GMT -6
And free college is not on my priority agenda. Affordable college is. And fixing pre-K-12 to make it 1) equal across race and socioeconomic groups and 2) good enough to get a job with. I feel if we give free college but don’t address education quality before that, it’s just white middle and upper class continuing to get further ahead. ::pours one out for Kamala’s education policies:: For sure. Universal prek would go a very long way to evening the playing field in ways that college never could.
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Post by coconutbacon on Jan 18, 2020 20:03:34 GMT -6
And free college is not on my priority agenda. Affordable college is. And fixing pre-K-12 to make it 1) equal across race and socioeconomic groups and 2) good enough to get a job with. I feel if we give free college but don’t address education quality before that, it’s just white middle and upper class continuing to get further ahead. ::pours one out for Kamala’s education policies:: I also thought Booker’s baby bonds proposal would have been a step in addressing these issues. And Warren’s universal childcare plan also does a lot to address the gap between family leave and pre-k, which costs more than college in many places.
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Post by cnf on Jan 18, 2020 20:19:43 GMT -6
I dont think anyone aside from Biden, Warren Buttigieg and Sanders will be on the ticket for much longer after first primaries. I could be wrong of course. Of those on the quiz I got Buttigieg, Biden then Warren and then Sanders. Klobichar and bloomberg are right after buttigieg otherwise and sanders is about dead last. Interesting things from taking the quiz. I dont think we should wipe all college loans because people still owe something for what they got out of college. Nothing is free. Moving forward after reducing debt we need cheaper college but im not sure how to do that. I dont think we can get rid of all insurance plans cause it will put too many people out of work from that industry. Phase in more coverage for younger and poorer people Medicaid etc. Lower age for medicare. Get them to meet in the middle. Allow insurance to continue for years, but not sure how to make that work. But cant do a full hard stop of insurance being a thing. I dont believe we should frack, but maybe theres something i dont know about how to do it safer. I dont think we can phase out nuclear. We need to not compare disaster at fukashima to say the serious safety protocols at palo verde that make it a very safe nuclear power plant. Its the largest in the us. We cannot replace the amount of power palo verde produces in any way that is safer for our envirmonment. When a nuclear plant is closed a coal plant seems to always replace it. Even solar has the negatives of finding digging up and transporting the metals from china etc needed to make the batteries to store solar power. I dont think we need more supreme court justices. I dont think more is a fix. How they are appointed by a president to do his bidding is a bigger problem than how many. Maybe a president only gets to appoint 1 per term? Small businesses will ve killed by 12 weeks paid leave if they have to pay the wages while also filling the persons job. Figuring out how to make that work maybe short term disability by feds. But how to pay. gosh our debt is already so high. Its un-pay-off-able in our lifetimes. Re: paid family leave, and how it’s paid for, NY State has paid family leave— most workers here are now guaranteed 60% of their salary, capped at $840.70/ week for 12 weeks. It’s funded by employees through a payroll deduction (which is based on income but maxes out at a little under $200/yr). The employer is not double paying for a temp and the regular worker. The money comes from the pool of money coming from all workers in the state. Unless you're a teacher. We just get a big middle fucking finger. Can't wait to take my eight weeks in September and only be paid for the PTO I have accumulated up to that point. Five unpaid weeks then going back to work at only 8wpp, post C-section will be super. Thanks NY.
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Jan 18, 2020 20:21:31 GMT -6
And free college is not on my priority agenda. Affordable college is. And fixing pre-K-12 to make it 1) equal across race and socioeconomic groups and 2) good enough to get a job with. I feel if we give free college but don’t address education quality before that, it’s just white middle and upper class continuing to get further ahead. ::pours one out for Kamala’s education policies:: For sure. Universal prek would go a very long way to evening the playing field in ways that college never could. Universal Pre-K has been such a game changer for us. DS is getting speech and OT services that we absolutely couldn't afford otherwise. Plus I've started looking for a part time job so we might actually be in a position where we aren't living paycheck to paycheck.
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Post by coconutbacon on Jan 18, 2020 20:55:38 GMT -6
Re: paid family leave, and how it’s paid for, NY State has paid family leave— most workers here are now guaranteed 60% of their salary, capped at $840.70/ week for 12 weeks. It’s funded by employees through a payroll deduction (which is based on income but maxes out at a little under $200/yr). The employer is not double paying for a temp and the regular worker. The money comes from the pool of money coming from all workers in the state. Unless you're a teacher. We just get a big middle fucking finger. Can't wait to take my eight weeks in September and only be paid for the PTO I have accumulated up to that point. Five unpaid weeks then going back to work at only 8wpp, post C-section will be super. Thanks NY. Ugh, I’m sorry cnf. I forgot that teachers and some other public employees aren’t covered because... what’s the stated reason, that your union needs to negotiate it??? To be honest, I’m completely unclear as to why the law doesn’t apply. In NYC, teachers do get paid parental leave, (although it’s structured differently than for private employees) because UFT went pretty hard on DeBlasio for it (as they should have). We definitely still have a ways to go.
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Post by coconutbacon on Jan 18, 2020 21:09:27 GMT -6
For sure. Universal prek would go a very long way to evening the playing field in ways that college never could. Universal Pre-K has been such a game changer for us. DS is getting speech and OT services that we absolutely couldn't afford otherwise. Plus I've started looking for a part time job so we might actually be in a position where we aren't living paycheck to paycheck. UPK has seriously been life changing for us. I am so grateful for it. Also, the cost of childcare is the main reason we’re one and done. Lack of affordable early childcare for sure takes away people’s choice of whether or not to have children.
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Post by elle on Jan 18, 2020 21:47:36 GMT -6
And free college is not on my priority agenda. Affordable college is. And fixing pre-K-12 to make it 1) equal across race and socioeconomic groups and 2) good enough to get a job with. I feel if we give free college but don’t address education quality before that, it’s just white middle and upper class continuing to get further ahead. ::pours one out for Kamala’s education policies:: Yes, yes, and yes. And all of the above is exactly why I think Bernie's insistence and focus on free college as the education cure all completely misses the mark.
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Post by sctiger on Jan 18, 2020 22:23:38 GMT -6
Agreed that free college is not a priority for me. I'm very much in favor of universal child care because I strongly believe in the power of building a foundation in the early years plus allowing women to continue in the workforce if they want to and not being forced to say home and miss out on a career due to the cost of childcare. My husband and I do well financially and two in daycare still took up a huge part of our budget. universal child care would go far in closing the financial gap.
I'd like to see 16-20 weeks (ish) of paid family leave. I'm a school counselor and my second daughter was born in March so I took the reminder of the school year plus the summer, so about 5 months and I thought that was a great amount of time to where I had plenty of time to adjust, recover, and enjoy my time and didn't feel rushed to be back, and I didn't lose miss out too on too much at work and feel out of it when I got back.
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Post by jaygee on Jan 18, 2020 22:41:12 GMT -6
Agreed that free college is not a priority for me. I'm very much in favor of universal child care because I strongly believe in the power of building a foundation in the early years plus allowing women to continue in the workforce if they want to and not being forced to say home and miss out on a career due to the cost of childcare. My husband and I do well financially and two in daycare still took up a huge part of our budget. universal child care would go far in closing the financial gap. I'd like to see 16-20 weeks (ish) of paid family leave. I'm a school counselor and my second daughter was born in March so I took the reminder of the school year plus the summer, so about 5 months and I thought that was a great amount of time to where I had plenty of time to adjust, recover, and enjoy my time and didn't feel rushed to be back, and I didn't lose miss out too on too much at work and feel out of it when I got back. I think 20 weeks should be a minimum and I agree that 5-6 months is great. I was lucky to be at a company that allowed it and in a financial position to take 6 months. Mostly unpaid. I did not get short term disability from the state since I didn’t give birth but luckily my employers leave benefits applied for adoption (due to a company founder who built her family through adoption). But regardless I had a good sleeper and did not give birth or breastfeed and still felt like a zombie a lot of those first 4 months. When I was feeling good, I just needed time to bond with my baby and establish the new norms for our family. I think H got 1-2 weeks of paternity but all that was eaten up with our stay out of state waiting for adoption paperwork to clear. I just don’t think it’s safe for people to be driving in rush hour traffic, working, etc during that time. Sleep and recovery is important and stress is not good for parents or children during that critical time. It should be a health and safety initiative for our country.
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Post by jaygee on Jan 18, 2020 22:45:19 GMT -6
cnf I’m really sorry about your leave situation. I know you will make it through but honestly it sucks that you have to deal with that and even worry about it.
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Post by coconutbacon on Jan 19, 2020 5:56:06 GMT -6
Also, paid family leave needs to include parental leave for both partners, regardless of who or if someone gave birth. 5-6 months would be great. MH got 6 months paid parental leave through his employer (way more than me!) and it was amazing for bonding with DD, feeling confident in her care, and also helped us extend not needing to find childcare for longer.
And, paid family leave should apply to new caregiving situations in general (eg if a family member becomes ill or has an accident, or is in otherwise serious decline and needs care) not just new babies/children. Especially as boomers are aging, and their children are working out how to manage their care, that’s important.
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