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Post by ladybrienne on Mar 14, 2019 10:17:44 GMT -6
Trump is already mocking Beto.
He makes it very easy to see who intimidates him in 2020.
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Post by cakewench on Mar 14, 2019 11:48:17 GMT -6
Mayor Pete: 1 Howard Schultz: 0
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Post by ladybrienne on Mar 14, 2019 11:51:54 GMT -6
Quoting myself to say I am a liar as I donated to Beto this morning. I’ve been doing some thinking and Beto, Harris, and Mayor Pete are my favorites so far. I did find Beto’s teasing of whether or not he was running to be a little egotistical and turned me off a bit. I think Beto has a better shot of winning the presidency than he did with his home state, because Texas. #KaBeto2020!! **back to lurking** play more here friend. Kthnxluvubye
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Post by jaygee on Mar 14, 2019 12:11:00 GMT -6
Quoting myself to say I am a liar as I donated to Beto this morning. I’ve been doing some thinking and Beto, Harris, and Mayor Pete are my favorites so far. I did find Beto’s teasing of whether or not he was running to be a little egotistical and turned me off a bit. I think Beto has a better shot of winning the presidency than he did with his home state, because Texas. I like Beto a lot, but I agree the teasing came across as a little egotistical. A few of the quotes from that Vanity Fair article did not help me shake that feeling. I tilted my head at least 3 times while reading. You mean like this: I have swirling Beto thoughts. I’ll try to jot them down at lunch.
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Post by misspatty on Mar 14, 2019 12:16:35 GMT -6
Mayor Pete: 1 Howard Schultz: 0 I think Mayor Pete has Howard beat in just about every category except for net worth. Maybe height. Will work to confirm. lol.
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Post by misspatty on Mar 14, 2019 12:18:46 GMT -6
I like Beto a lot, but I agree the teasing came across as a little egotistical. A few of the quotes from that Vanity Fair article did not help me shake that feeling. I tilted my head at least 3 times while reading. You mean like this: I have swirling Beto thoughts. I’ll try to jot them down at lunch. Yeeeeeeep.
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Post by notblanche on Mar 14, 2019 12:27:08 GMT -6
My hippie reduce, reuse, recycle heart is beating so quickly. misspatty I saw this post and meant to tell you, this week, I learned about a veteran-owned composting service in my local area. They provide a seven-gallon bin for food scraps, which they come to collect and replace once/week, and work with a local farm to turn it into compost. Twice a year we'll get a 20 lb bag of their compost or we can choose to donate it to a community garden. I love it; I am so excited and I'm going to sign up.
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Post by notblanche on Mar 14, 2019 12:42:05 GMT -6
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Post by Ls2012 on Mar 14, 2019 13:02:24 GMT -6
Quoting myself to say I am a liar as I donated to Beto this morning. I’ve been doing some thinking and Beto, Harris, and Mayor Pete are my favorites so far. I did find Beto’s teasing of whether or not he was running to be a little egotistical and turned me off a bit. I think Beto has a better shot of winning the presidency than he did with his home state, because Texas. #KaBeto2020!! **back to lurking** Semi-related: MH and I were talking about different candidate pairings last night and the smooshing of names together. And then the 4yr old interrupted with saying Harris and Buttigieg should be HarriButt. I almost choked on food. I do like the pairing, but we shot down that nickname real quick. 4 yr olds, man. Smh
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Post by misspatty on Mar 14, 2019 13:05:58 GMT -6
My hippie reduce, reuse, recycle heart is beating so quickly. misspatty I saw this post and meant to tell you, this week, I learned about a veteran-owned composting service in my local area. They provide a seven-gallon bin for food scraps, which they come to collect and replace once/week, and work with a local farm to turn it into compost. Twice a year we'll get a 20 lb bag of their compost or we can choose to donate it to a community garden. I love it; I am so excited and I'm going to sign up. Ummmm what a completely awesome idea! I'm jealous. We compost, but I would be lying if I said it wasn't a pain.
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Post by misspatty on Mar 14, 2019 13:12:00 GMT -6
The "sometimes" comment is not helping, Beto. STOP MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO LOVE YOU.
I think I know what he meant, but woof to some of the messaging at the start this campaign. He had plenty (way too much, tbh) of time to think his strategy out... I don't get it.
Related: Biden either needs to announce or not. I'm over it.
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Post by sweetpea on Mar 14, 2019 13:30:31 GMT -6
The "sometimes" comment is not helping, Beto. STOP MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO LOVE YOU. I think I know what he meant, but woof to some of the messaging at the start this campaign. He had plenty (way too much, tbh) of time to think his strategy out... I don't get it. Related: Biden either needs to announce or not. I'm over it. I am kinda over new candidates - we have a lot of good candidates at this point so if you haven't announced, I feel like you better bring something super duper to the table. At this point, I am only here for a Biden run if it guarantees no Bernie
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Post by ladybrienne on Mar 14, 2019 13:45:53 GMT -6
RE: Beto. I really try to look at intent.
I do not feel Beto intended to make it seem like his political aspirations come before his wife. Did it show what women candidates are up against? Yes I can admit to that. But I am not faulting Beto for making the comment as to how all of this has affected his family dynamic. I also don't think he intended for it to sound like he was meant to be in the White House. Would I have chosen different words? Yes, but in the context of this guy trying to figure out what was best for his family, I get it. Him being in the ring feels right. I get that, because I agree. He should be in the mix. I really feel that was the intent. He's a pretty down to earth guy.
I see both of these comments as someone who got thrust onto the national stage very quickly, who simply wasn't expecting it. This guy had prominent backers and members of the DNC calling him from pretty much the day he lost his Senate race, trying to get him to run for President of the United States - I mean holy shit. He has three young kids and had to decide whether to answer the call, or spend more time with his kids.
I don't know, sometimes I feel like we as voters pick apart things without looking at intent. I am very guilty of this myself. At the end of the day to me he is a much needed breath of fresh air. I am not going to dog him for those comments, I feel like he's a good man with this country's best interests at heart. And while I would have chosen different wording on being elected, I think the intent is important. I am focusing on that.
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Post by misspatty on Mar 14, 2019 13:49:54 GMT -6
I just read a tweet that called Beto the white Cory Booker and it hit me that I had completely forgotten that Cory is running. I was like "Huh, what has Cory been up to?!?" so I googled him. He's dating Rosario Dawson?! What in the world?
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Post by ladybrienne on Mar 14, 2019 13:53:05 GMT -6
misspatty I read about him dating her a few weeks ago and was SHOCKED. Go Cory.
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Post by SweetPotato on Mar 14, 2019 15:12:50 GMT -6
Beto definitely gets away with a lot more than any woman/mother would. But I mean...no shit. So do basically all the dads everywhere. I agree with ladybrienne that he needs to choose his words much more carefully, but intent is important and I think I know what he meant
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Post by coconutbacon on Mar 14, 2019 15:26:22 GMT -6
misspatty I read about him dating her a few weeks ago and was SHOCKED. Go Cory. I get it. The man is charming. He’s rescued a woman from a burning building! He’s a good looking, liberal, vegan superhero. Cory Booker has been my personal longtime political crush. I don’t really want him to win though, because then I’d have to think more critically about some of his less progressive positions, and that charm might be lost.
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Post by richard on Mar 14, 2019 17:17:04 GMT -6
At Michelle Obama's talk last night she very bluntly talked about how her and Barack's marriage was not 50-50 when it came to child rearing when the girls were young and how that was a problem in their marriage (She said Barack now likes to say that she hated him for a decade, lol). And I spent the weekend talking with my girlfriends about the "invisible labor" that mothers often disproportionately do (signing kids up for camp, buying the birthday presents, figuring out the grocery list).
So I'm willing to give Beto the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to give his wife credit for what is likely the not 50-50 split they have, especially with his job.
That said, Beto is not high up on my list currently because an overall golden boy vibe isn't enough. I'll admit I haven't paid super close attention to him earlier because a sentient garbage can would be better than Ted Cruz...but now I'm going to need more than a "I was born for this" to be impressed.
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Post by richard on Mar 14, 2019 17:23:36 GMT -6
misspatty I read about him dating her a few weeks ago and was SHOCKED. Go Cory. He is just so square.
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Post by ktg on Mar 14, 2019 17:25:47 GMT -6
I was excited about possible Beto, and now I'm less so because of the "I was born for this."
I also think he'll take numbers/funds away from Pete, who has really won me over.
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Post by sterling on Mar 14, 2019 17:31:58 GMT -6
Equal no brainers for me:
Beto v. Cruz Beto v. Mayor Pete
(Mayor Pete wins) (Every time)
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Post by blurnette989 on Mar 14, 2019 18:16:47 GMT -6
I would rather see Stacey Abrahams Run than Beto O'Rourke. I hope she puts her hat in the ring because I think she is more accomplished and experienced and badass af.
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Post by blurnette989 on Mar 14, 2019 18:21:00 GMT -6
ladybrienne I get what you are saying, but I think so often "looking at intent" just end up translating to giving the white guy a pass. Andi 1000% know that isn't what you are going for, but I think so often we* give the benefit of the doubt to the white guy but we* wouldn't do the same for women or poc. *This is the societal/general we
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Post by jkjacq on Mar 14, 2019 18:23:11 GMT -6
I’m unsure about Beto after the last 24 hours
I like him. I just get a sense of entitlement now that didn’t seem to be there during the senate run. And I’m aware that powers that be were really pushing him. I also hate that he drug the will I won’t I put for so long.
I feel that way about Biden as well. If you aren’t sure by now sit it out
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Post by blurnette989 on Mar 14, 2019 18:25:03 GMT -6
Also our very good friend who we'll be seeing next month on a visit to NY is married to Rosario Dawson's cousin. They are very close. How do I naturally turn this into meeting cory booker lol?
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Post by dc2london on Mar 14, 2019 18:29:17 GMT -6
I'm willing to give Biden and Beto a bit of grace on how long they took to announce bc Beto has very young children, and Biden has adult children who would be subject to mudslinging if he runs. That's a REALLY tough decision. It's not about the oppo research or the odds of winning, it's about how much you're willing to put your family through. Never forget Helen Santos' red thong.
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Post by dc2london on Mar 14, 2019 18:30:24 GMT -6
Also going up against Trump and his army of miscreants is going to be so. fucking. ugly. I'm not on the Biden or Beto train for POTUS, but I can't fault them for taking their time deciding whether or not to subject their families to that. And this primary season started so damn early
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Post by origami on Mar 14, 2019 18:39:17 GMT -6
And this primary season started so damn early Remember the innocent time that was 2004 when the exploratories all happened in like, December 2003 and Howard Dean was effectively sidelined because he was TOO effusive? I'm already exhausted by 2020 and the primaries are still 11 (12?) months away.
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Post by coconutbacon on Mar 14, 2019 18:53:20 GMT -6
And this primary season started so damn early Remember the innocent time that was 2004 when the exploratories all happened in like, December 2003 and Howard Dean was effectively sidelined because he was TOO effusive? I'm already exhausted by 2020 and the primaries are still 11 (12?) months away. I still think we (Dems) fucked up by not going with Dean because he raised his damn voice. Passion is important.
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Post by misspatty on Mar 14, 2019 19:09:04 GMT -6
I'm willing to give Biden and Beto a bit of grace on how long they took to announce bc Beto has very young children, and Biden has adult children who would be subject to mudslinging if he runs. That's a REALLY tough decision. It's not about the oppo research or the odds of winning, it's about how much you're willing to put your family through. Never forget Helen Santos' red thong. I’ll give you this point on Beto, since he basically only became a star during the midterms and that’s a pretty fast turnaround... but Biden has been toying with this for literal years. Basically since people started whispering about potential 2016 candidates, no? His name came up then but he wasn’t sure about running because of Beau. His name has been thrown around for 2020 basically starting the day after Trump won. This primary season has started early, but I’m not sure how much more thinking he needs to do? There are so many candidates, let’s get everything on the table and start narrowing it down. In conclusion, team Pete 4 ever.
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