jaygee
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Post by jaygee on Mar 12, 2019 15:36:26 GMT -6
I first heard of him a couple months ago on Freakonomics: freakonomics.com/podcast/andrew-yang/He’s not on my list of people I’m considering voting for/ donating to, but I have to admit, rebranding Universal Basic Income as a “Freedom Dividend” is pretty smart. It made me wonder how other progressive ideas could simply be rebranded to appeal to conservatives. There was a freshman congresswoman, Lauren Underwood, on NPR talking about similar ideas (eg. rebranding free-college for all as a new financial aid reform) on NPR this morning. I actually think Mayor Pete’s “Freedom to” vs “Freedom From” is coming from a similar place too. It’s smart. Well, this is interesting. I was just venting to my dad the other day about how the GOP has always been so good at branding and marketing their crap. Like calling Medicaid and SS entitlements to make them sound like freebies. Or this new infanticide bullshit. So, yeah, let’s do some of that re-branding.
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sctiger
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Post by sctiger on Mar 12, 2019 18:59:25 GMT -6
I first heard of him a couple months ago on Freakonomics: freakonomics.com/podcast/andrew-yang/He’s not on my list of people I’m considering voting for/ donating to, but I have to admit, rebranding Universal Basic Income as a “Freedom Dividend” is pretty smart. It made me wonder how other progressive ideas could simply be rebranded to appeal to conservatives. There was a freshman congresswoman, Lauren Underwood, on NPR talking about similar ideas (eg. rebranding free-college for all as a new financial aid reform) on NPR this morning. I actually think Mayor Pete’s “Freedom to” vs “Freedom From” is coming from a similar place too. It’s smart. Well, this is interesting. I was just venting to my dad the other day about how the GOP has always been so good at branding and marketing their crap. Like calling Medicaid and SS entitlements to make them sound like freebies. Or this new infanticide bullshit. So, yeah, let’s do some of that re-branding. Totally agree. Republicans suck but they are really good at building a base and having a few issues that they can really hit (abortion, freedom to religion which means using religion to discriminate, and 2nd amendment). Democrats are handling the latest abortion legislation very badly and we need to change the way we talk about abortion (maybe focus more on preventing unplanned pregnancies). I love the way Mayor Pete said you're not free to start your own business if you're worried about losing your health care. I don't know all the answers to how the Democrats need to change but I do worry that the overall message is getting lost because we "like socialism and killing babies."
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Post by notblanche on Mar 13, 2019 6:07:42 GMT -6
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misspatty
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Post by misspatty on Mar 13, 2019 6:42:37 GMT -6
Well, this is interesting. I was just venting to my dad the other day about how the GOP has always been so good at branding and marketing their crap. Like calling Medicaid and SS entitlements to make them sound like freebies. Or this new infanticide bullshit. So, yeah, let’s do some of that re-branding. Totally agree. Republicans suck but they are really good at building a base and having a few issues that they can really hit (abortion, freedom to religion which means using religion to discriminate, and 2nd amendment). Democrats are handling the latest abortion legislation very badly and we need to change the way we talk about abortion (maybe focus more on preventing unplanned pregnancies). I love the way Mayor Pete said you're not free to start your own business if you're worried about losing your health care. I don't know all the answers to how the Democrats need to change but I do worry that the overall message is getting lost because we "like socialism and killing babies." I can't remember who it was, but I distinctly remember a Republican saying "We're great at winning elections, but not so great at actually governing" sometime in 2017. Lol. Sob.
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misspatty
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Post by misspatty on Mar 13, 2019 7:50:23 GMT -6
This is v important.
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Post by notblanche on Mar 13, 2019 8:28:41 GMT -6
@petebuttigieg: “I have more years of government experience under my belt than the president. I also have more years of executive government experience than the vice president, and more military experience than anybody to walk into that office on day once since George H. W. Bush.” #CNNTownHall
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milano
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Post by milano on Mar 13, 2019 11:37:53 GMT -6
I'm watching the town hall with Pete. I already really liked him, but now I'm all in.
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misspatty
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Post by misspatty on Mar 13, 2019 12:55:01 GMT -6
My hippie reduce, reuse, recycle heart is beating so quickly.
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stringy
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Post by stringy on Mar 13, 2019 16:40:09 GMT -6
According to my email from him- mayor Pete needs about 10k more donations to reach the goal....so if all of our spouses donate does that count?
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misspatty
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Post by misspatty on Mar 13, 2019 17:14:09 GMT -6
According to my email from him- mayor Pete needs about 10k more donations to reach the goal....so if all of our spouses donate does that count? I got the same email. 85% of the way there! I’m sure you’re all shocked to learn that I badgered MH into donating long ago 🤷🏼♀️
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jkjacq
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Post by jkjacq on Mar 13, 2019 18:29:25 GMT -6
According to my email from him- mayor Pete needs about 10k more donations to reach the goal....so if all of our spouses donate does that count? I got the same email. 85% of the way there! I’m sure you’re all shocked to learn that I badgered MH into donating long ago 🤷🏼♀️ Was just coming in here to talk about this Yes your spouse should be counted as a unique donor I badgered my mom into. I made her tune in halfway through the town hall and she was what’s the website? I like him
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milano
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Post by milano on Mar 13, 2019 18:38:11 GMT -6
According to my email from him- mayor Pete needs about 10k more donations to reach the goal....so if all of our spouses donate does that count? MH is signing up and donating tonight! I saved the town hall for him to watch too.
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Post by ladybrienne on Mar 13, 2019 18:38:38 GMT -6
Got my mom and husband to donate to mayor Pete.
Also, Beto is announcing his 2020 run tomorrow!
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sctiger
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Post by sctiger on Mar 13, 2019 19:08:23 GMT -6
Got my mom and husband to donate to mayor Pete. Also, Beto is announcing his 2020 run tomorrow! Yes! Where did you see this?
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Post by ladybrienne on Mar 13, 2019 19:33:20 GMT -6
Got my mom and husband to donate to mayor Pete. Also, Beto is announcing his 2020 run tomorrow! Yes! Where did you see this? He texted a tv station and confirmed it. His official announcement is coming tomorrow
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sctiger
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Post by sctiger on Mar 13, 2019 19:40:27 GMT -6
Yes! Where did you see this? He texted a tv station and confirmed it. His official announcement is coming tomorrow Yay! I hope he comes to my city. SC will never go blue but we are important for winning a primary. If he's around, I'm going!
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byjove
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Post by byjove on Mar 14, 2019 5:09:16 GMT -6
Beto is official.
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Post by ladybrienne on Mar 14, 2019 6:21:47 GMT -6
Alright Beto, time to recapture the magic of two months ago and show us what you're made of!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 6:32:50 GMT -6
I'm interested to see how Beto translates his TX campaign into a national campaign. But I like him! I'm glad he's running.
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Post by ladybrienne on Mar 14, 2019 6:37:58 GMT -6
I'm interested to see how Beto translates his TX campaign into a national campaign. But I like him! I'm glad he's running. Me too - I am excited to see how he will fit in policy-wise with the other candidates. He has voted pretty centrist in the past when he was in Congress but he also has some pretty progressive views.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 6:46:20 GMT -6
I donated to Beto this morning. I wish he would've not run and taken Cornyn's seat, but I love him either way.
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sctiger
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Post by sctiger on Mar 14, 2019 7:08:42 GMT -6
I am super excited about Beto! I've already ordered my magnets and stickers.
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richard
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Post by richard on Mar 14, 2019 7:30:12 GMT -6
My Twitter timeline rn:
BETO BETO BETO BETO
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Post by ladybrienne on Mar 14, 2019 7:38:05 GMT -6
My Twitter timeline rn: BETO BETO BETO BETO Lol mine too.
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Post by cakewench on Mar 14, 2019 7:50:38 GMT -6
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sweetpea
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Post by sweetpea on Mar 14, 2019 9:10:40 GMT -6
For me, Beto announced too late. My money is on Mayor Pete right now
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Post by Dr. Cox on Mar 14, 2019 9:33:21 GMT -6
I have been very vocal of my love for Beto and would vote for him in a heartbeat if he’s the nominee. However, I really feel like it’s time for a female president, and I’m throwing my money that way. He’d make a great VP though. I feel the same about Castro. Quoting myself to say I am a liar as I donated to Beto this morning. I’ve been doing some thinking and Beto, Harris, and Mayor Pete are my favorites so far. I did find Beto’s teasing of whether or not he was running to be a little egotistical and turned me off a bit. I think Beto has a better shot of winning the presidency than he did with his home state, because Texas.
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Post by lawandorder on Mar 14, 2019 9:40:08 GMT -6
I have been very vocal of my love for Beto and would vote for him in a heartbeat if he’s the nominee. However, I really feel like it’s time for a female president, and I’m throwing my money that way. He’d make a great VP though. I feel the same about Castro. Quoting myself to say I am a liar as I donated to Beto this morning. I’ve been doing some thinking and Beto, Harris, and Mayor Pete are my favorites so far. I did find Beto’s teasing of whether or not he was running to be a little egotistical and turned me off a bit. I think Beto has a better shot of winning the presidency than he did with his home state, because Texas. #KaBeto2020!! **back to lurking**
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Post by notblanche on Mar 14, 2019 9:41:52 GMT -6
For me, Beto announced too late. My money is on Mayor Pete right now This is where I am, I think.
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misspatty
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Post by misspatty on Mar 14, 2019 10:11:17 GMT -6
I have been very vocal of my love for Beto and would vote for him in a heartbeat if he’s the nominee. However, I really feel like it’s time for a female president, and I’m throwing my money that way. He’d make a great VP though. I feel the same about Castro. Quoting myself to say I am a liar as I donated to Beto this morning. I’ve been doing some thinking and Beto, Harris, and Mayor Pete are my favorites so far. I did find Beto’s teasing of whether or not he was running to be a little egotistical and turned me off a bit. I think Beto has a better shot of winning the presidency than he did with his home state, because Texas. I like Beto a lot, but I agree the teasing came across as a little egotistical. A few of the quotes from that Vanity Fair article did not help me shake that feeling. I tilted my head at least 3 times while reading.
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